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What is self-refutation and what are some examples of self-refutation?

Why, self-refutation is the most wonderful thing in the world, next to irony.

Look at this post from Thinking Matters New Zealand.

First, they define what self-refutation is:

In his Introduction to Logic, Harry Gensler defines a self-refuting statement as “[A] statement that makes negative claims so sweeping that it ends up denying itself.” [1] In other words, it results when an argument or position is undercut by its own criteria  (An example of this would be saying, “I cannot speak a word of English” in English).

Then they have a list of examples of self-refutation. Here are some:

  1. Truth does not exist (Is that a true statement?)
  2. Nothing is absolute (Is that absolutely true?)
  3. I do not exist (You must exist to deny that you exist)
  4. Science is the only way to know (Can you scientifically prove that?)
  5. Only what can be perceived by the five senses exists (Can you prove that by the five senses?)

Go here to read the rest.

I work in the software engineering industry, so we have a lot of nerds running around who believe all kinds of crazy things that are self-refuting. There is a lot of skepticism of the laws of logic and analytical philosophy. A self-refuting statement that I hear a lot is: “Don’t judge me, because it’s wrong to judge other people”. And I just ask them: “Well if it’s wrong to judge other people, then why are you judging me?”. (Actually, I noticed that MandM has a post up about judging right now!)

I wonder if my regular readers have ever heard any self-refuting statements? If you know any more, leave it in the comments.

On another topic, it turns out that the author of this post on self-refutation blogs at Rational Thoughts. I added their blog to the blog roll. Check them out.

Video of William Lane Craig explaining the Kalam cosmological argument

This is the video from his appearance at Saddleback Church (Rick Warren) that got such a big response. Saddleback is a pretty ordinary church, which lots of people with different levels of knowledge. How did Bill explain the Kalam argument to so many different ordinary people?

Watch and see!

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:

Part 4:

    You can also find a more technical version of the lecture here. This version is based on a research paper published in an astrophysics journal, and was delivered to an audience of students and faculty, including atheist physicist Victor Stenger and prominent atheist philosopher Michael Tooley, at the University of Colorado at Boulder. Craig has previously debated Stenger and Tooley. And they both asked him questions in the Q&A of this lecture.

    You might also be interested in this exchange in which William Lane Craig takes on prominent atheist Daniel Dennett.

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    Brian Auten interviews Jim Wallace of Please Convince Me

    I spotted this on Apologetics 315. This is really well done.

    The MP3 file is here. (43 minutes)

    Details from Brian’s post:

    Today’s interview is with Jim Wallace of PleaseConvinceMe.com and host of the PleaseConvinceMe Podcast. As a cold case detective, Jim brings a unique perspective to his approach to apologetics and a very down-to-earth logical style. In this interview, Jim talks about his approach to the evidence (inference to the best explanation), Tactics and apologetics, debate vs. dialogue, pitfalls to apologists, and more.

    Topics:

    • Jim’s background as an Catholic-raised atheist, and cold-case detective
    • Jim believed in the progress of science to answer all the unresolved questions
    • How did Jim become an atheist?
    • Why didn’t Jim respond to Christians witnessing to him without evidence?
    • What approach worked to start him thinking about becoming a Christian?
    • What did Jim do to grow as a Christian?
    • How did Jim’s police training help him to investigate Christianity?
    • What investigative approach is used in his police work?
    • Does “abductive reasoning” also work for investigating Christianity?
    • What sort of activities did Jim get involved in in his community?
    • How Jim’s experience as a youth pastor convinced him of the value of apologetics
    • How young people learn best by training for engagement with opponents
    • How Jim takes his youth on mission trips to UC Berkeley to engage the students
    • Is it possible to run an apologetics ministry part-time while keeping a day job?
    • Do you have to be an expert in order to have an apologetics ministry?
    • What books would Jim recommend to beginning apologists?
    • How the popular apologist can have an even bigger impact than the scholar
    • How the tactical approach is different for debates and conversations
    • Jim’s advice for Christians who are interested in learning apologetics
    • How Christian apologist need to make sure they remain humble and open-minded
    • How your audience determines how much you need to know from study

    Jim’s reason for becoming an atheist, (his mother was excluded from the Catholic church after her divorce), is one I have heard before. Without saying anything about the Catholic church’s policy. I like the way he eventually came back to Christianity. No big emotional crisis, just taking a sober second look at the evidence by himself, and talking with his Christian friends. I’m impressed with the way he has such a productive ministry, as well.