Welcome to episode 72 of the Knight and Rose podcast! In this episode, Wintery Knight and Desert Rose explore the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels, to equip you to follow the Leader. If you like this episode, please subscribe to the podcast, and subscribe to our YouTube channel. We would appreciate it if you left us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

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Christian apologists Wintery Knight and Desert Rose discuss apologetics, policy, culture, relationships, and more. Each episode equips you with evidence you can use to boldly engage anyone, anywhere. We train our listeners to become Christian secret agents. Action and adventure guaranteed. 30-45 minutes per episode. New episode every week.

Episode summary:

Wintery Knight and Desert Rose discuss Jesus’ teachings from the Gospels, emphasizing truth, evidence, self-denial, and forgiveness. They explore passages on seeking the kingdom, loving enemies, and private prayer. They critique prosperity gospel and moral relativism, urging Christians to prioritize eternal matters over worldly approval. They offer practical insights for obedience to Jesus, focusing on reconciliation, service, and pursuing God’s priorities.

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Episode 72:

Speaker biographies

Wintery Knight is a black legal immigrant. He is a senior software engineer by day, and an amateur Christian apologist by night. He has been blogging at winteryknight.com since January of 2009, covering news, policy and Christian worldview issues.

Desert Rose did her undergraduate degree in public policy, and then worked for a conservative Washington lobbyist organization. She also has a graduate degree from a prestigious evangelical seminary. She is active in Christian apologetics as a speaker, author, and teacher.

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All the regular readers will know that I am often linking to news sites like The Federalist, Daily Signal, Breitbart, etc. And I also watch news shows like the Lotus Eaters (UK), Juno News (Canada), Steven Crowder (USA), Rita Panahi (Australia), and so on, to see what’s going on in other countries. I wanted to write a short blog post with a couple of recent shows, to show you how important it is not to rely on mainstream news media.

So, the first story is about the mass shooting in Canada. For that, I follow the reporting of Juno News managing editor Cosmin Dzsurdsza on X. He was the first reporter in the world to confirm the shooter’s identity and the fact that he was trans and identified as a trans woman. Here’s an interview from Juno News:

The vast majority of the people who live in Canada are watching news sources who receive money from the Canadian government. And of course the Canadian government is very concerned about people being able to look at Twitter and find out the truth about the results of their policies. They don’t want anyone finding out about the results of their immigration policies, their policing policies, their promotion of transgenderism to children, their adoption of euthanasia (MAID) as a substitute for health care, the traffic accidents committed by immigrants who can’t even drive safely, the high costs of their green energy policies, etc. Outside of Canada, we know about all of these things. But inside Canada, most of them have no idea. Almost none of it is covered on the government-funded news. They think they are living in the best country in the world. They literally have no idea.

Remember how in Canada, the courts regularly arrest and imprison parents who try to stop their children from being transed. Everyone is in on this – the government, the judges, the courts, the lawyers, the doctors. And the parents are paying for all of it.

Let’s go on to the UK. On this blog, I’ve covered the activities of Muslim immigrants related to the trafficking of underage girls for the purposes of prostitution. Again, outside of the UK, everyone knows about this – we can name the cities where this happened: Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford, Oldham, Oxford, etc. You can find these cities on this blog. But inside the UK, if you can’t even tweet about these things because the UK police will come to your house and threaten you with prison. You can’t own a firearm, and people who try to defend themselves from criminals are prosecuted. The government and their servants in the UK police don’t want anyone questioning or resisting policies that harm them or their families. Most people in the UK think they are living in the best country in the world. They literally have no idea. The UK police and the Canadian police are nothing like honest law enforcement in red cities and red states in America.

How has the government responded to the surge in crime caused by their policies? Well, the government refused to have a hearing about it. In early 2025, the Labour government (under Keir Starmer) declined a national inquiry into grooming gangs. So, one of the conservative MPs in the UK (Rupert Lowe) did a crowd-funded effort to have his own hearings with the victims.

Here’s a report on that from the Lotus Eaters show:

Again, you aren’t going to see these grooming gangs investigated by the UK government. In January 2026 the Labour government (Starmer and ministers like Liz Kendall) threatened a potential nationwide ban on access to X. They don’t want people finding out about the results of their bad policies – policies that harm the very taxpayers who pay their salaries.

Well, what about in America? It depends where you get your news. This story from the Media Research Center shows you that even relying on Big Tech companies like Apple and Google to find you the news is a big mistake:

Editor’s Note: This study was shared by President Donald Trump, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, X owner Elon Musk, the New York Post, Fox Business and more.

Apple News continued its defiant stance against offering news from right-leaning outlets through the end of January 2026.

Apple News stubbornly refrained from using any right-leaning outlets in the top 20 articles of its morning editions between Jan. 1 and Jan. 31, 2026. Of the 620 top stories featured by the news app in the first month of the year, not a single one was from a right-leaning media outlet.

So, I think this is important to say. You can’t turn to the corporate news media or Big Tech news aggregators to get real news. You have to have some other way to find out what’s going on in the world. For me, I read Just Facts, The Federalist and Daily Signal and sometimes Breitbart, and try to check out reporting from reliable independent journalists.

Exciting news last week for Christians and conservatives who are concerned about children being bullied into self-mutilation. A great victory has been achieved. The first ever lawsuit made by a detransitioner has succeeded. I’ve blogged before that the medical personnel who do these treatments and surgeries are only interested in one thing: MONEY. And when you take away their MONEY, a funny thing happens. They stop transing kids.

Here’s the story from The Federalist:

On Jan. 30, a New York State jury awarded a 22-year-old woman, Fox Varian, $2 million in damages for her 2019 “gender-affirming” double mastectomy, which she came to deeply regret. She was 16 years old at the time. This settlement against Varian’s psychologist and plastic surgeon is the first legal judgment imposed upon those performing such mutilations.

According to this article in the New York Post, the people who lost the lawsuit pushed bullied the parents with threats that the child would self-end:

Psychologist Kenneth Einhorn and surgeon Simon Chin were held responsible in Westchester County Supreme Court in White Plains for ignoring standards of care and procedural guardrails by pressuring the minor into addressing gender dysphoria with permanent surgery, the jury decided.

Lawyers for Varian pointed the finger at Einhorn, saying he “drove the train” and was “putting the idea in Fox’s head” that she needed to change her gender with surgery, according to the report.

Varian’s mother, Claire Deacon, testified that she was against the surgery, but consented to it out of fear her daughter would commit suicide, according to the outlet.

“This man was just so emphatic, and pushing and pushing, that I felt like there was no good decision,” Deacon told The Epoch Times.

That’s the standard approach, because they have to get that insurance money somehow! According to the Federalist article, there are at least 5,200 teen girls who have had their breasts removed by adults who got paid to do it. And there are 27 other detransitioner lawsuits still waiting on a verdict. All it takes is one win, though and suddenly the medical associations that approved of these surgeries are changing their tunes.

The Society for Evidence-Based Gender Medicine (SEGM) reports:

In a watershed moment, on February 3, 2026, the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS) issued an official position statement recommending that a key step of “gender-affirming” care—surgical intervention—be delayed until the patient is “at least 19 years old.” The recommendation against performing gender-affirming procedures in minors extends to all types of gender-related surgeries, including breast/chest, genital, and facial surgeries. However, the ASPS statement goes much farther than merely advising surgeons to delay surgery. It raises serious evidentiary and ethical concerns about the entire gender-affirming treatment pathway for youth, including social transition, puberty blockers, and cross-sex hormones.

But that’s not the only one, here’s another, reported in the far-left Washington Post: (archived)

The American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics recommend transition surgeries primarily for adults but say adolescents can receive them on a case-by-case basis.

The AMA appears to now be taking a more cautious stance. A spokesperson for the AMA said Tuesday that “the evidence for gender-affirming surgical intervention in minors is insufficient for us to make a definitive statement” but that it agrees with ASPS that surgeries for minors should be generally deferred to adulthood in the absence of clear evidence.

Was the AMA’s previous stance on transing the kids based in scientific evidence? Well, the AMA’s previous stance contradicted years of research I’ve covered on this blog, including:

• New study: Risks associated with pediatric “gender-affirming” care
• New study: Transgender surgeries linked to suicidal ideation, depression
• New study: gender-affirming surgery associated with suicide attempts
• Pre-ban study: 53% of mothers with gender-confused boys have mental illness
• New study: Significant parallels found between anorexia and gender dysphoria
• New study: most children suffering from gender confusion grow out of it
• New study: Mental health issues persist after receiving “gender-affirming” treatment
• Study: “social contagion” is a major factor in teen and young adult gender dysphoria
• New study: psychotherapy improves mental health of autistic teens with gender dysphoria
• Controversial study on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria and transgenderism re-published

The UK’s Cass Review, which I discussed in my May 2025 post linked above, is a gold-standard analysis. It found no consistent mental health benefits from puberty blockers or hormones, yet the AMA pushed these treatments regardless. I’m blogging about the gold standard studies, but AMA people thought that ordinary people were not following the science. We are. Christians and conservatives bound our worldviews off of what science tells us. We are not being swayed by Big Medicine and Big LGBT to suppress the science. The AMA argued gender-affirming care reduces distress, but the Cass Review and other studies show no consistent mental health benefits.

I just think it’s amazing that these medical doctors who threaten parents with their child self-ending and bragged about how transing the kids was “a big money-maker” are now suddenly very cautious. All it took was a 2-million-dollar lawsuit and suddenly, scientific evidence matters after all. And that’s what Christians had been saying all along – let the scientific evidence inform our decisions about moral issues. It shouldn’t just be be a situation of wanting insurance money.

Many Christians think that people who reject Christianity can be trusted to make good moral decisions. “Of course my doctor would never mutilate my child for money” Christian think. “No need for me to study and make a case against abortion, same-sex marriage, and transgenderism”. Well, not so fast.

When a person kicks God out of his or her worldview, it actually does have a big effect on how that person sees morality. It doesn’t matter that the doctor looks nice, dresses nice, sounds nice, and has fancy degrees. When God is gone from a doctor’s worldview, you cannot expect them to behave morally. And that should be a concern to all Christians and conservatives, because we all get old one day. We will all have to rely on health care providers.

We judge too much by appearances. We think a rich doctor must be morally good. It’s just not the case. It’s our job as Christians to challenge everyone to think more closely about moral issues like abortion, same-sex marriage, transgenderism, etc. We have to study to get the evidence and then we have to not care about the loss of reputation.

Rose and I did a couple of Knight and Rose Show episodes about this topic. One with Frank Turek and one with Jay Richards, so check them out. And check out my previous posts.