Before you marry, have enough money saved to keep your kids out of public schools

My friend William shared this excellent article from The Federalist, which talks about how public schools, under the influence of Common Core, are exposing children to pornography in order to advance a leftist culture agenda. The article has the stories of several heroic mothers who stood up to the school system and got the pornographic materials removed. Let’s look at one of them, and then I’ll comment on how public school administrators and teachers should be viewed, then I’ll comment on the issue of financing these public schools, then I’ll talk about planning for schooling of your children.


In 2012, Lebanon, Oregon, mother of two Macey France began studying the nationwide implementation of Common Core. While looking through a document titled “Common Core Appendix B” that contained reading exemplars, Macey found the book, “The Bluest Eye” listed as an example of appropriate assigned literature for eleventh- and twelfth-grade students.*

France, a contributor to the website PolitiChicks, took to her keyboard and typed up a scathing condemnation of the book as not high-school appropriate, including quotes directly from the book, such as:

I am not putting pornographic excerpts from public school books on this blog, duh.

We continue:

As a result, her article “Common Core-Approved Child Pornography” was viewed and shared hundreds of thousands of times and Macey was nominated for a CPAC blogger award for Best Sunlight Post of 2013.

“This is when I first became a ‘target’ for the progressives who support public education and minimize parental rights,” said France, who had a hard time understanding how her well-researched, truthful article could make her the target of the kind of emotional, hateful rhetoric she experienced. It frustrated her to be personally attacked for wanting to protect her kids. It also frustrated her to find many parents who weren’t concerned about their teens reading “The Bluest Eye” because they believed school officials knew more about what was best for their children than they did.

“I was called names, accused of being backwards, racist [Toni Morrison is a black woman], ignorant, a flat-earther, and even received private messages on Facebook telling me how hateful I was,” France said. “I was first introduced to the phrase ‘white privilege.’ At one point, I was called Hitler. I was misunderstood and accused of wanting to ban and burn books [even though] I went out of my way to convey that I am not an advocate for banning literature. I am a huge parental rights advocate. I got the distinct impression I was not supposed to question the manner in which they [educators] related to my kids.”

My problem with public school is not that education school graduates are selecting high brow reading material that is above me. I love Shakespeare and Spenser and Dickens and Austen and other classical writers. The problem I have with public schools is that some of the teachers, and most of the administrators, have this agenda to break down traditional morality and sexualize children at earlier and earlier ages. This is part of the secular progressive agenda – they know that sexualizing children makes them less likely to become conservative, less likely to marry, less likely to have children who are raised by a mom and dad, and who are therefore more resistant to the will of the secular leftist government.

Public schools are leftist indoctrination seminaries

A good example of how this works can be found in the province of Ontario, Canada. There, the Liberal Party government is led by a lesbian woman who left her husband and children to move in with her lover. The Liberal Party decided to re-write the education curriculum so that it would be more in line with their supporters in the Sexual Revolution crowd, e.g. -secularists, LGBT activists, abortion providers, etc. And so, they hired a convicted child pornographer to re-write the curriculum. They didn’t see the public school’s priority as teaching children how to get the skills needed to find jobs that pay. They wanted the public schools to make children non-judgmental about the immoral behaviors of the selfish adults.

It’s very important for parents to understand that people don’t just find themselves in education programs and then in public schools by accident. Sometimes they are in there because they couldn’t find real work in the private sector. Sometimes they are there because they want to indoctrinate your kids with their left-wing ideology. You can’t assume that the people in public schools want to partner with you to pass on prudent and practical Judeo-Christian wisdom to your children. The public school monopoly attracts those who are looking for job security and insulation from the disapproval of their customers. It’s true that some teachers are there to educate students so they have useful skills in order to find good jobs. But in my experience, many of teachers aren’t, and most of the administrators aren’t.

Note: private school teachers and administrators have to compete with other schools, so they are sensitive to meeting the needs of parents. At least you have a choice about where you send your kids, so they have to care what you want for your kids, and how much you are able to pay.

Don’t vote for bigger government if you value quality education

So how do these public schools get their funding? Well, it’s simple. They appeal to voters by saying that the more they spend on public schools, the more children will learn. This actually works on voters who don’t bother to familiarize themselves with the facts:

Education spending has tripled since 1970
Education spending has tripled since 1970

The truth is that parents who want children to do well should always vote for smaller government, lower taxes, and the pushing down of decision-making in education policy to the state and local level. We shouldn’t be swayed by “it’s for the children” rhetoric, because throwing more money at the problem only gives us more sexual revolution indoctrination and more gay rights agenda. Most of the new money goes to administrators anyway – not to the teachers in the classrooms. You might think that the public schools are there to help your children to get a job, but that’s not what they public school administrators think they are there for.

Getting married? Make a plan to provide for your kids’ education

One final point. I am finding myself surrounded by male Christian apologists who want to get married, and who are not interested in being providers. They’ve spend their entire 20s in school as students, they’ve taken money from their parents, they’ve never worked a day in their lives, they have outstanding student loans, they have no savings, and yet they all talk to women they like about marriage. My view is that Christian men should not be allowed to talk to women – even to ask them the time of day or for directions – until they have a STEM degree, 2 years of private sector work experience, all debts paid off, a car and some savings. And why not? Well, for reasons like this article on the public schools.

The public schools are what they are, and Christian parents cannot rely on them to educate our kids. If a man is talking about marriage without having taken steps to get a STEM degree, STEM private sector work history, and an investment account that is added to every month, then he has no business talking to a woman about marriage. He has to be able to show her that he is serious about providing the children with homeschooling or a private school education. How parents plan to educate their kids is a major issue in marriage – it affects whether the children will be effective and influential, or not. A woman should not trust the promises of any man who has not taken practical steps in the past to prepare for the needs of his children in the future. She cannot accept intentions and promises that make her feel good, she has to see evidence of his ability to put aside his ambitions in order to provide for her and the children – that is his obligation as a man (1 Tim 5:8). A man who wants marriage should prepare well in advance for it by having a career that will allow him to earn and save so that his wife and children will not be threatened in their worldview more than they can bear. If he has to give up some student stuff and some ministry stuff in order to prepare for husband / father responsibilities, then he should do that – before the wedding day.

51 thoughts on “Before you marry, have enough money saved to keep your kids out of public schools”

    1. Excellent! Seriously, this was not a problem 50 years ago, but it’s a big problem now. And the man has to have a plan to pay for a solution. Women should be looking for men who have a plan for this, and it can’t just be empty promises and future hopes. Lots of men who look good on paper cannot take the real grind of private sector work once they get there.


  1. Amen! And if Christian parents DO turn their child over to the government schools, they better make sure it is in a small town, deeply red state, where every teacher is heavily involved in Christian service and publicly progesses Jesus as Lord, AND the parents “helicopter” that school.

    Otherwise, homeschool. — words of wisdom from a former liberal atheist who suffered decades of worldview abuse. Ignore these words at your peril.


  2. Charter school has been good to us. Of course, it’s the sort of charter school where I can review every line before giving it to my children – and substitute our own curriculum if that’s better. You would still need to be able to afford a SAHM for this to work.

    *Note that CA homeschooling laws require you to be “under the supervision” of a licensed teacher and turn in gobs of paperwork. The (free) charter school takes care of that for us.


    1. That’s a good alternative. I think the important thing is that you find something good, and all I am saying is that money gives you more options. So, it should be part of the calculation. If two young people love each other and don’t have money, they should encourage each other to study harder and work harder to get some. It’s not a deal-breaker, it’s something to discuss and solve.

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  3. I would love to send our children to private schools, but we are facing a dilemma: Our tax dollars (property taxes) are paying for our child’s education. If we don’t take advantage of this, and send our children to private school, then you would be basically paying twice for our child’s k-12 schooling?

    On the other hand, if you know your Bible, and have a close relationship with your church, then you can do what a certain church is doing in our children’s public elementary school: after school care program. In this after school care program, children are not only receiving help with their homework, but they are also being taught Biblical lessons. Although the program is only 2 days a week (they are hoping to expand to a full week, but they don’t have enough church volunteers). Currently, the services, to parents, are free.

    We (parents & children) need to be a shining light to these parents & students (and eventually the school’s teacher, staff & administrators will probably also be effected). My daughter even corrected her middle school science teacher (when the teacher tried to say that evolution is a fact. Then, I had to really give the teacher a lesson during parent teacher conference. The teacher brought it up. The teacher didn’t know that Darwin-himself-believe that his theory of evolution did not hold up to the Cambrian Explosion. The teacher didn’t even know or was familiar with the Cambrian Explosion and Darwin’s admission). Although some parents become angry and/or say no thanks, when I hand out church invitation cards to them while they are dropping off or picking up their children at school (or my children give it to their classmates), there are a few parents & students who are not only like the cards, but they have even attended our church services!

    We, Christians, can still bring Christ back into the public education system, but we have to (1) know our stuff, and (2) find programs that can still be allowed in K-12. Our daughter even told us that in her middle school, Lutheran Family Services program Biblical mentoring & counseling to middle school students after school, and even hold certain events during the weekend.


      1. And if you homeschool, one parent must stay at home. That is usually, but not always, the Mom. And it makes for stronger families. Homeschool families were a big reason I was drawn to Christ and away from atheism. These folks take the difficult path, are almost always authentic disciples of Christ, and yet are so joyful!

        If you are thinking in your mind that you cannot give up the second income, then you just might have fallen prey to the prosperity “gospel.” Give up the bling, and do the right thing! :-) Your children are not guinea pigs to be experimented with in the government schools.


        1. I don’t think it’s a problem if people look far enough ahead and count how much they will need then choose their major and career accordingly. But you can’t just walk around blind-folded bumping into things by following your heart and claiming that God is leading you to do whatever you feel like doing all through your 20s.


          1. So true. Or, in my case, NOT follow God but instead follow the money. :-) Some balance is necessary, and we can’t expect a 17 year old to make perfect decisions. But, that is where good Christian parenting comes in. When my daughter wanted to get a degree in psychology, I told her that it would be an excellent degree for working at the mall. :-) She did so anyway, and now wonders why she does not make much, even though the Assistant Dean of Engineering had told her she would get a full ride to go into engineering instead.

            As for me, even as an atheist, I went into engineering because I was good at math and wanted to get paid for working hard. It was not exactly a brilliant thought, but it turned out to be spot on – retiring at 47, after 26 years of diligent work. NOW I do what my heart says. :-)


          2. LOL! You are the super-Dad. It’s good not to tell children “no”, but to instead explain to them the consequences of decisions, then let them decide. Then they have to live with their decisions. One of the young ladies I advise was studying German, now she is doing GIS (Geography Information Systems), which is much more in demand. I was able to sway her by showing her what different graduates make, and what the unemployment rates are. She is far more intelligent than I am, but older people have experience and wisdom, right? At least she listened to me, not everyone does.

            You were wise to go into engineering. It’s fine to have freedom after you retire, but you’ve done a lot of good for your family by providing for them first.


          3. Thanks, WK! Your advice is so sound here. Easy for me to say, since I love engineering, but the truth is that I did not love it when I was nearly flunking out of one of the top 3 engineering schools in the country my first semester. I learned to love it as I got better and better at it.

            I was a very good provider – paid for my kids’ education, encouraged their talents, and demanded personal responsibility from them. However, I was not a very good role model without the Holy Spirit to constrain me. For that reason, I hope that serious Christians will take your advice here seriously – they can have the best of both worlds for their children – a relationship with Christ (they better be doing apologetics at an early age) AND the Christ-commanded best use of their talents.


          4. Yes, they try to fail people out in the first year, for sure. I had a B- and a B, and I NEVER had Bs before. I ended up taking the B- over, I was so mad at it.

            I am glad you see my point, which is that if you are a man and you want marriage, then you need to have a balance. Your future wife has needs, your future kids have needs.


        2. Home schooling is the journey itself. It doesn’t have to be “eight hours” in books, or bringing the public school classroom setup into the home.

          My father taught me more about math than I ever learned in a classroom. He was a carpenter. There were many evenings after school where he would be working in his “shop” in the basement and he and I would “talk” and he would show / demonstrate “how” math was used…especially geometry. As I got older, I needed “extra help” with calculus. My dad didn’t have the “patience” to help me here, but my aunt was very good with calculus and she helped me. The school? They wanted me to “drop out” of the math class because the teacher didn’t have “the time” (Union said he had to clock out by 3 PM everyday).

          When you homeschool, don’t let the “experts” tell you what you cannot do. Yes, you have to be creative. Parents have to take it seriously. Look at all founders of many industries. Immigrants, look at Thomas Edison…..he founded “General Electric” and was “homeschooled” and his mother was not some amazing mathematician, or wonder woman. Einstein was the same. Look at countless men and women who came from the “one room school” and went on to amazing careers….and the teacher was not a woman who had a “MS in special education and rhetoric” from prestigious colleges /universities.

          It’s nonsense that a person has to stay “home” all day and do this, and if this is the case? What of it? We in Christianity keep hearing that children are the greatest gift…..and then we throw that gift into a very subpar school system.

          If I had children. They would be homeschooled. period.


      2. I am in favor of lowering taxes. However, in this case, lower the property tax rate (or taxes) could have the following consequences: (1) my property value must be depreciating, and/or (2) the public schools will lose revenue by lowering the taxes. Does the public school district have enough funds for the next few fiscal years to be happy with less revenue? I doubt it. Since the states are unwilling to pick up the tab after a property tax reduction, then public schools will have to trim their budgets: less teachers, larger classes (studies have shown that increasing class size, without increasing the number of teacher or teacher assistants in that particular class, has a negative effect on student learning), less pay to teachers and staff, etc. There was a court case in Missouri, challenging this funding formula or constitutionality of the state’s method of funding the public school system. However, our wicked judicial system agreed with the politicians by stating that the funding system is ‘adequate.’ How can it be adequate when the property value is lower in certain areas (low value = low tax revenue) and higher in other areas (high value = higher tax revenue)?


        I propose that the state politicians eliminate property taxes as the main source of funding public education, and have the Federal Government fund the public school systems. How do we pay for it? First, pass a federal balance budget amendment. Then, we can determine who should pay what, and how much. Without a federal balance budget amendment, the US Congressional leaders are allow to print and spend money without worrying about how big the deficit grows.

        How many potential & current leaders have agree to introduce and pass a federal balance budget amendment? Hillary? Trump? Cruz? Sanders? O’Bama? It is not fair that the states have to balance their budgets, while the feds don’t have to.


        1. Public schools, aka government schools, are a failed investment. More and more money has been thrown at them, and they continue to deliver worse and worse results. Government schools are also the intentional educational torture of minorities, who do horribly compared with whites. The solution is not to continue to throw more money at them, but to do away with them altogether. If government schools appeared on Shark Tank, they would be laughed off of the stage. They are a horrible investment in our children’s education. Doing away with the Education Department would be a good start, but would also be insufficient. Like most liberal experiments, government schools are a complete and abysmal failure. But, we do not seem to be able to roll back failed liberal experiments in our country anymore.


          1. I partially agree. Earlier, I posted an article about the intentionality of our public educational system in a different article. I will repost it again with an excerpt:


            “Schools should be factories in which raw products, children, are to be shaped and formed into finished products. . . manufactured like nails, and the specifications for manufacturing will come from government and industry.” – Elwood Cubberley’s dissertation 1905, Teachers College, Columbia University

            “We want one class to have a liberal education. We want another class, a very much larger class of necessity, to forego the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.” – Woodrow Wilson

            ‘In a time when our experts in education range from the operator of a software company, to a talk show host, to a Chicago businessman of no great success, to a woman from a wealthy family who went to an Ivy League school and met powerful friends, it is important to understand what the educational system in the United States was designed to do, and why it was designed to do that.’

            Based on how the public school system is funded, you can see the results. In St. Louis, Missouri, for example:

            Riverview School District = lost accreditation = low home values = low property tax revenue

            Normandy School District (same as Riverview)

            Saint Louis City Public School District (didn’t lose their accreditation, but they are on a provisional accreditation = low home values = low property tax revenue)

            Now let’s look at a few public school system who are less than 35-45 minutes away from the ‘bad ones’:

            Ladue School District = accredited, very high home values (the average home value is in the millions), very high property tax revenue

            Webster Groves School District (same as Ladue, but few, if any, million dollar homes)

            Clayton School District (same as Ladue)

            It is interesting to see the correlation between high property value (equals high property tax revenue) and accreditation. Or should we factor in ethnicity? The ‘good schools’ are majority White. The ‘bad ones’ are majority black. You couldn’t pay me to live in the 3 ‘bad school areas’. However, I can’t afford to live in the good areas. I am in a school district (Hazelwood School District) that is now starting to have financial problems due to low property values. And the crime has started to increase. Due to the 2008 recession, people are still either walking away from their homes, short-sales, or renting them out to section 8 families.


    1. “We (parents & children) need to be a shining light to these parents & students”

      We home schooled our daughters, and you are making an argument many of us have heard or struggled with ourselves; if we want the public system to be a better place, we need to stay in it in order to be able to make a difference and make changes.

      Which might actually work to a certain extent, but as parents, our first priority is to our own children. It’s not worth sacrificing them to try and fix the system. Obviously, parents would need to make that decision based on what’s available in their area; some schools aren’t that bad and making changes is actually possible. From what I’ve seen, those situations are few and far between. I’ve encountered too many parents whose kids were pretty badly damaged before they finally pulled them out of school.

      And I’ll be honest; home schooling is not right for everyone. Some people just shouldn’t home school. Just as I know people who should have pulled their kids out earlier, I know others that are using home schooling to further their own ideology, and using their kids as trophies or extensions of themselves. And there are those who do it to hide their abuse of their children.

      No one way of educating our kids is going to be right for everyone. That’s why we need school choice, and for the schools to be accountable to parents. Unfortunately, far too many parents are content to abdicate their responsibilities to the schools. After all, most of them are products of a school system that taught them that only the “experts” can teach their kids, and that as parents, they aren’t “qualified.”


      1. I completely understand. Home schooling is definitely not for me or my wife. My wife and I are in a very interesting predicament: it will cost us at least $600 per month to send our 3 girls to the private, catholic school up the street. In a couple of years, we will be able to afford this. However, when our oldest daughter starts the catholic, private high school in a couple of years, which is still less than 4 blocks from our home, it will cost us $700 per month (with the scholarship) for her school and $550 per month (with the scholarship) for our other 2 daughters to stay at the private, catholic middle school. Since the schools are on a separate system, we can’t have all 3 children count as a multiple discount; only the 2 children, in the middle school, will receive the discount. Do we want to drive 3 children, across town Monday-Friday, when there is a great private school a few blocks away? No. Are we going to pony up the funds to send them to the private, catholic school up the street? Probably not, but it depends upon if my wife wants to move (and she does) within a couple of years, and what we agree to (I like our home, but I am not liking how the neighborhood is changing).

        ‘Which might actually work to a certain extent, but as parents, our first priority is to our own children. It’s not worth sacrificing them to try and fix the system.’

        LOL! You sound like my wife! However, isn’t that what the Christian walk is suppose to be? Sacrificing yourself for Christ sake and the Gospel? You are not trying to fix the system; you are trying to save lives. And even if they don’t listen (or in my case, accept the cards and/or use them), it is still our duty, as Christians, to get the Word out to them:

        Ezekiel 2:3-7 New International Version (NIV)

        3 He said: “Son of man, I am sending you to the Israelites, to a rebellious nation that has rebelled against me; they and their ancestors have been in revolt against me to this very day. 4 The people to whom I am sending you are obstinate and stubborn. Say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says.’ 5 And whether they listen or fail to listen—for they are a rebellious people—they will know that a prophet has been among them. 6 And you, son of man, do not be afraid of them or their words. Do not be afraid, though briers and thorns are all around you and you live among scorpions. Do not be afraid of what they say or be terrified by them, though they are a rebellious people. 7 You must speak my words to them, whether they listen or fail to listen, for they are rebellious.

        However, there are also consequences for us (Christians) if we share and don’t share the Word:

        Ezekiel 3:16-21 New International Version (NIV)

        16 At the end of seven days the word of the Lord came to me: 17 “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. 18 When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for[b] their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked person and they do not turn from their wickedness or from their evil ways, they will die for their sin; but you will have saved yourself.

        20 “Again, when a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before them, they will die. Since you did not warn them, they will die for their sin. The righteous things that person did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous person not to sin and they do not sin, they will surely live because they took warning, and you will have saved yourself.”


        1. “LOL! You sound like my wife! However, isn’t that what the Christian walk is suppose to be? Sacrificing yourself for Christ sake and the Gospel? ”

          Sorry for not responding earlier. Turns out I neglected to confirm follow on this post. LOL

          Sacrifice ourselves, yes, but not someone else. Our jobs, as parents, are to raise our children up in Christ. If we can do that and send them to public school, great, but if public school is stealing our children from Christ, then we need to do what needs to be done to protect them, so much as we are able. We need to know what’s going on in our schools, and increasingly, schools are deliberately keeping parents uninformed and misinformed. When it comes to things like LGBT issues or abortion, parents are actually prevented from knowing what’s happening with their kids. Parents are viewed as the enemy, and our children are to be separated from us as early as possible, and as thoroughly as possible.


          1. ‘but if public school is stealing our children from Christ,….’

            No one can steal you and/or your children from Christ: Romans 8:38-39

            ‘For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.’

            ‘We need to know what’s going on in our schools, and increasingly, schools are deliberately keeping parents uninformed and misinformed.’

            Participating in your school’s PTA can alleviate all your concerns. Please visit to see the power parents have when they participate in their school’s PTA (there are also some informal powers of PTA membership, too. As a member of our children’s school PTA, I had a lot of strings pulled for me, by the principal & sometimes our children’s teachers).

            ‘When it comes to things like LGBT issues or abortion, parents are actually prevented from knowing what’s happening with their kids. Parents are viewed as the enemy, and our children are to be separated from us as early as possible, and as thoroughly as possible.’

            Proverbs 22:6 ‘Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it.’ Christianity starts at home. If your children are not only raised by the Word, but they also trust you with ‘almost’ every situation or circumstance transpiring in their lives (key word: ‘almost’. As you probably know, as our children become teenagers-12 to 17 age range-their ‘friends’ will began to know more about what’s going on in their lives than we-parents-do. The goal is trying to make sure that the scale stays balanced, and doesn’t lean more favorably to their ‘friends’ and/or school’s perspective), then you will have no problem keeping them on the ‘straight and narrow path.’ I will give you a great example of this in my family:

            My younger brother lives in 4.5 hours away from me. We rarely keep in touch, maybe once or twice a year (However, since I am not on Facebook, he & his wife are Facebook friends with my wife). Anyway, for the past 12-15 years he works 5-6 days a week, 12 hour shifts. During those times of working (he commutes 45-60 minutes one way to work. Sometimes he spent the night at the job or on his wife’s brother’s couch, who lives where my brother works.), it is obvious to see that he allowed his wife to raise their children by herself. His wife didn’t take their children to church every Sunday, didn’t have any interacting or affiliation with a local church, no Bible study, etc. When my niece, their daughter, went away to college, she came home, during one of the holidays, with her atheist boyfriend. My brother and his wife were shocked and disappointed. I told them that they shouldn’t be shocked if they-the parents-weren’t following what Proverbs 22:6 states. They didn’t bring Christ into her life while she was young, and now you are upset that she is doing this? When I asked him, my brother & his wife, when was last time that they’ve been to a church. Their only response: ‘It’s been awhile.’

            On the other hand, my daughter, who is only in middle school, not only attends church with us every Sunday (and sometimes on Tuesday nights), but she volunteers at the church. We only let her hang around with other children who attend church (we question the parents and the children. On one occasion we had a parent lie to us-that they attend church-when the child to us that don’t. So, we inform them when they become affiliated with a church, then give us a call. We haven’t heard from a single one. Hence, our daughter only hangs around family members and our church friends. In another incident, our daughter even informed us that she didn’t want a certain person coming to her birthday party because the daughter’s parents were ‘proud atheists’. When we asked to see if their daughter wanted to attend church with us, the daughter said she wanted to go, but her parents said no. So, we just keep them in our prayers.). We are instilling in our daughter the importance of putting Christ first in everything that you do. She also knows about key issues that Christians encounter in her public school: evolution, gay & lesbianism, atheism, drug abuse or usage, etc. So far, we are very proud of her for standing up for her faith!

            Please keep in mind: this also requires us, as parents, to stay up to date on the latest in religion, philosophy, science, Christian apologetics, prayer, and Bible reading & studying. Ultimately, it will come down to what the child does when she/he leaves home. If their parents spend years ensuring that a solid Biblical foundation is established, then there is a good chance that their children will not depart from it (no matter what type of environment that they are in, they will be like a Psalms 1:1-3:

            “Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stands in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither. Whatever he does prospers.’).


          2. “Participating in your school’s PTA can alleviate all your concerns. ”

            LMAO. I’m sorry, but that is a joke. It’s possible that you live in a relatively small deep red town, and that such is the case. Otherwise, I must say you are fairly oblivious to what goes on in the government schools. We will see you in 15 years.

            Otherwise, your post was a good one. God bless, and thanks for training your daughter up in the Lord!


          3. WorldGoneCrazy: ‘LMAO. I’m sorry, but that is a joke. It’s possible that you live in a relatively small deep red town, and that such is the case…….’

            I do live in the red state of Missouri, but I live in a crime-ridding, drug infested, predominately African-American suburbs of St. Louis entitled North County. North County, MO used to be a great place to live 30-35 years ago. Not anymore. Most of the homeowners are either abandoning their homes, short-sale, or renting them out to section 8 inhabitants (something my wife and I are contemplating). Of course there are a few bright spots in North County, MO, but it’s changing, and the recession hasn’t ended in our neighborhood.

            The PTA membership, in our children’s elementary school, only has on average 3-5 members (interesting that these parents can show up for their child’s black history performance, or whenever our PTA has a family fun night, but they can’t come to our PTA meetings or even Parent Teacher Conference and Meet the Teacher night. Priorities?). Sometimes all 5 members don’t show up, but most of the time they do. My wife and I have been involved in our PTA, and I can’t begin to tell you what our PTA accomplished in our children’s, public elementary & middle school via our the school’s principals, school nurse, music teacher, and class room teachers & staff.

            1. We convinced the Principal to take serious disciplinary measures against students participating in demonic games (like Charlie, Charlie: Since the Principal attends her church every Sunday-she is a Baptist-, and didn’t have a clue that the children were playing these demonic games in the classrooms and during recess, she sent a note home to all parents about this new disciplinary measure for children participating in this kind of activity). The Principal, at our daughter’s middle school, also agree to do the same.

            2. The Principals agreed to allow the Music teacher play Gospel Music in music class (if they can learn from & study other genres of music why not Gospel Music……the music teacher didn’t even have a problem with it), and during the Black History Performance (our children’s middle school even played gospel music during our daughter’s 5 grade graduation. This was last year).

            3. Science teacher(s) cannot state that evolution is a fact in our daughter’s middle school. Our daughter’s middle school science teacher was not to happy when another PTA parent and I went to the principal about this issue. We had a meeting with the principal and the teacher, and after presenting & hearing evidence from both sides, the principal was convinced that the teacher can teach this as a theory only (you can tell the teacher doesn’t like us anymore…lol).

            4. The Principal allows us to hand out church invitation cards to parents & teachers (Since we participate in our PTA, the principal even allowed us to post a 12 x 18 flyer for our Church Easter Play in the Teacher’s Lounge). No complaints from the teachers or parents (we had one teacher state: ‘Anything to stop these children from acting out and getting the parents to care about their child’s education’).

            5. Allowing religious organizations to use the school’s grounds for after school care at no cost to the religious organization. I spoke about this in one of WK’s blog. We even have religious organizations (Lutherans) providing Biblical mentoring to young, middle school girls after school (our PTA president and school principal were instrumental in bringing this organization to the school). We even convinced the after school Boys & Girls Club to come to our Church’s Halloween event. Not only did they transport the children from the school grounds, but also brought them back to the school grounds on a Friday evening (some parents went along with them, and now they are attending our church!).

            Your PTA membership has formal and informal connections (or powers) that can make a difference in your child’s school. You just have to have faith as a ‘mustard seed.’


          4. I am very familiar with government schools: spent many hours in them when my kids attended them in a MUCH nicer setting, before we homeschooled. (I am also VERY familiar with the area you live in, but that is another story.)

            Again, I will see you, your kids, and the schools they attended in 15 years. I am very happy that you are making a difference, and I agree with your approach, given that you have closed yourself off to homeschooling (why is that, BTW? The only thing I saw was how expensive private schools would be; homeschooling is roughly 10% of the cost of government schools per child, and a fraction of private schooling. There are plenty of good Catholic homeschooling organizations in that area, obviously.), but you are allowing your children’s minds to be experimented on for 7 hours a day. By liberals. (If that does not send a chill into your bones, then nothing will, and I cannot help you.)

            As someone who was raised by same, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that “spicy mustard seeds” are being planted in your children’s hearts and minds every single day that they are in that school. Good luck getting those out. It’s like pornography – once you see it, you cannot “unsee” it. Do you not realize the worldview of the majority of the teachers, staff, and administrators that your children “spend time” with?!?

            I am praying that you succeed. You are clearly performing, by the Grace of God, in a Herculean manner to overcome terrible forces of darkness in the schools your children are in – by the examples you yourself provided, which would have sent me homeschooling much earlier. God bless you and your family as you protect, provide, and spiritually lead them!


          5. “No one can steal you and/or your children from Christ”

            You seem to be missing my point. If a school can convince children to reject Christ – and their own parents – then yes, they are stealing our children. Schools can, and do, exactly this. Yes, I know, our baptized children will always belong to Christ, but that doesn’t stop indoctrination from happening.

            “Participating in your school’s PTA can alleviate all your concerns. ”

            Are PTAs just a US thing? Are they really that common? Because we don’t have those up here. Most public schools actively discourage parents from being involved, even as they ask parents to volunteer in classrooms. If they are helping in the class, it’s just to cut out shapes or organize books, not interact with the children. Only teachers are allowed to do that.

            Right now, in some provinces, we have regulations that actively deny parents information about their children. It’s under the assumption that if parents knew this stuff about their kids, they wouldn’t be “safe”.

            As parents, we are expected to abdicate our parental role to the “experts.” Certified teachers and government. Some schools are worse than others. I’m glad I don’t live in Ontario, for example, but even here in “redneck” Alberta, we’re increasingly under attack by secularists, and they are trying to control us home schoolers through regulations as well. They most recently succeeded where they failed several years ago by invoking the LGBT agenda. Anyone who disagreed with them could then be branded as homophobic haters who would rather their tormented children commit suicide (because apparently, they’re all closet LGTB or something) than have a “safe” club at school.


  4. I grew up in a “country school” in the rural wilds of northern New York State. I finished high school in 1988.

    I always wanted to be a teacher as a boy and teenager, so I entered college and studied to become one. I wanted to teach elementary education / special education. If any of the younger readers are considering this field. Think again.

    After my college education classes and student teaching I was so disillusioned with public education I decided that I would have to figure out what I wanted to do, and then explain to my parents on why they wasted 20K per year at my private college for this useless field that they indeed did struggle and scrimp to pay for.

    *teachers in the public school system have more loyalty to their Union than to the students they teach and communities they serve

    *teachers demand to be treated like professionals but will not submit to any critical evaluation of their field, their abilities, or skills. They also refuse to be be “re-certified” or “licensed” and are advocates of the seniority system. Despite this, every teacher will gripe, whine, moan, and complain that they are not “paid” for everything they do. They also entered a field knowing the demands of time.

    *teachers are not allowed to teach, they have to follow the “state” guidelines of when, where and how. The syllabus is king. The mandates / diktats of the state and Union are supreme. The teachers who can actually teach, leave the field in a few years burnt out and disillusioned.

    *teachers in the lower grades hate men. If you are a straight man in the lower grades you will be a target and made miserable. If you are single, amplify the hostility by 100%. Women in elementary education hate men. They are convinced no man can “teach” and if he is there he *must* be there cruising for sex, is a child molester, or gay.

    *special education is a joke. what was intended to set up, support, help, and remedy issues for special needs has become a dumping ground where students get stuck in, and pretty much “never leave” now. Special education consists of busy paperwork to “justify the department” in the school and the kids don’t learn a thing. I substituted for a class back in 2010 (Fresno, California) because I was so desperate for work…….the students watched “High School Musical” all day. All day. There is zero accountability for this population in special ed….they are being trained to be on welfare for the rest of their lives.

    *who is in school today? Here in California every few days is some sort of “teacher workshop” or “in service training”

    Kids are not learning, the math and raw numbers show this……and yet, every election we hear how teachers are putting in 1000% everyday.


  5. Fully support this notion, and if it isn’t possible, move to a country where the public schools are not satanized, somewhere like the Philippines maybe. I cannot think of a worse form of abuse than the Modern Western classroom.


  6. Okay the book is being given to 11th and 12th grade for english lit. So i just look up the summary and a book like this would be appropriate for 11th and 12th grades, the reason why is becauae 16 -18 a teen should be able to read a book like this and be able to comprehend the book and break it down and discuss it.

    I have no issue with Shakespeare but even his works deals with death and tragedy or even the greek myths that are taught has the same controversial topics taught yet no one sees anything work with those -many greek myths have rape, incest and beastiality.

    12th grades especially should be mature enough to handle the topics of ‘The Bluest Eyes’ 12th grades are ages what 17 to 18 which in America 18 you are considered an adult. However most young adults cant handle shakespeare so i doubt that they can handle this book by Toni Morrison.

    Now this is in Oregon I am not sure if the learning curriculum is the same down here in the south but for my 4 years of high school i have read works by shakespearen edgar a. Poe, i have read anne frank, night another book about the Holocaust which tells the horrors of being in concentration camps and talks about kids being thrown into furnances. the crucible where one of the characters sleeps with a teenage girl but i dont see people complaining about that.


    1. We read the “the bluest eye” in 8th grade in New York State where I grew up. Conservative, all red counties. A “poor” school district. It wasn’t really that “great” a book….the difference was that my parents took an interest in what I was assigned to read. They discussed their views with me….which were secular as well but socially “conservative” and they checked my homework and pushed me through jr high and high school in my studies.

      Why is this book now considered “12th grade reading material”?
      Because kids cannot read today, that’s why. Let’s forget for a moment about the “rape” and the “bad words” for a moment. This book was written in 1970 or thereabouts…..tame compared to what kids see on TV, and good heavens on the Internet, video games, and movies. Don’t get me started on current music. As I recall it was a pretty “easy read” back in 1984 when I read it.

      I am just saying that parents need to TALK to their kids about THEIR values and discuss what they are learning in school. It’s all about grades today, passing the test. getting high marks on some “state board exam” or being popular and “fitting in” and being indifferent to what is actually being taught. I knew tons of “smart on paper” kids in college and grad school, but ask them about current events or other stuff about history…blank stares.

      Hardly real solutions for a critical thinking world, or being prepared for hardcore degrees in college or ready for the trades (few that are left, and we as a culture put our noses up at those…they’re good for other kids….but not their own).

      There was a study back in the early 1990’s….it made the back pages of the papers back then…….anyway….it said something about this one college (Dartmouth) did a study about the “top ten percent” of graduating classes of high schools across the country. Rich, poor schools. Black, white……..urban and suburban….and one consistent find in this study was: All the top students in each class ate dinner together at a dinner table, with their families….even if the kid came from a “single parent home” with a home cooked meal. TV off.

      revolutionary indeed.


      1. I never read the book and this is the first time I am actually hearing it about it. Whether a child is in private, public or homeschooled at the end of the day its the parents responsibility to make sure they are raised right. My mother raised me and my sister as a single parent, she did homeschooling for two years then it was back to public school. She checked all our assignments and whatever we didnt learn in school we learned at home or somethings i learned on my own outta pure curiosity or just because i liked reading.

        Yes the 1970’s were different times and parents back then didnt seem to treat their kids like i noticed today- kids today are too shelter and given this bubblegum sugarcoated ideal of the world that is immediately destory once they reach college.

        Parents need to stop pointing figures, do the media and government have some influence on society and our children yes but thats only half the issue. I agree with completely on that parents need to talk with their kids but sadly they don’t which is why they are so many issues right now.


  7. The only problem I have with the idea is that its yet another barrier to having a decent family size. Adding an extra 3-8K per child , avaerage 5 per year is a huge burden for parents and if you have say more than 2 children, you can easily become better off homeschooling


  8. Not to mention, if you are a man, have enough money hidden away to survive the inevitable divorce she initiates.


    1. Well…yeah sadly Robert What? That is a true statement today. Remember even in the ‘Christian world / culture’ divorce is only a few paltry points lower than the secular world…..and divorce is initiated in the ‘Christian world / culture’ by women over 75% of the time…and just like the secular world the biggest reason is that “they are not happy”


  9. Do you have faith schools in the public sector in the US? I went to a Catholic primary and secondary schools – both excellent and both still as good now as then. There’s also an Anglican school very near. (UK, Somerset) Just wondered if you have the same options .


  10. I forgot to add: We even start our PTA meeting off with a prayer. There are so different methods of bringing Jesus back into our public schools. All you need is prayer and faith as ‘a mustard seed.’ And after you done your part (your part also may include fervent, constant praying for the students and their parents, teachers, staff, and administrators of that particular public school, and even doing certain Christian ‘things’ like we did in our PTA at our schools. Sometimes you may need to rebuke those evil spirits off of these families and/or individuals, as well: James 5:16, NIV, ‘The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.’), just sit back and watch the Lord work. This may not happen overnight, but eventually you will see the results of your prayer, if you are a ‘righteous person.’


  11. WorldGoneCrazy: ‘Again, I will see you, your kids, and the schools they attended in 15 years…..’

    In 15 years, our children will be 20+ years old, we are no longer responsible for their walk with the Lord (only if they continue to live in our home and/or want to come into our home. They won’t be bringing any ‘sin’-like an atheist friend or significant other-back into our house). It’s like saying that David was responsible for his son Solomon turning away from the Lord (As you know, Solomon started worshipping idols after the Lord blessed him with wisdom, knowledge, peace from his enemies, and wealth).

    ‘As someone who was raised by same, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that “spicy mustard seeds” are being planted in your children’s hearts and minds every single day that they are in that school. Good luck getting those out. ‘

    Your forgetting how God protected Daniel while he was in the Lion’s Den? Protected Shadrach, Meshach, & Abed-Nego from the fiery furnace? Protected Joseph when his brothers sold him into slavery; then he went into prison, and God was still with him? Protected Jeremiah when he was placed in a muddy cistern, and left for dead? You also need to remember that, in John 17:20, Jesus is praying for us and our children: ‘I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their (disciples) word.’ Moreover, Jesus also states that, in Matthew 10:16, ‘“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.’ Jesus is with us wherever we go.

    ‘given that you have closed yourself off to homeschooling ‘

    As I mentioned earlier, we don’t have the patience (sometimes we are so glad to drop them off to school) or work schedule to homeschool our children (and we don’t trust anyone to do it for us). Remember homeschooling is not going to prevent Satan from coming after you and/or children. As 1 Peter 5:8 states ‘Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.’ Also remember what Paul says, “Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution” (2 Timothy 3:12).

    In this world, Satan’s coming for you and/or your children, and it doesn’t matter how much homeschooling, public schooling, or private schooling that you do (review the book of Job, lives of the disciples, Paul, etc. as examples of living ‘godly’ and still suffering from Satan’s attacks).


    1. I’m reading both sides, and I come down further to the WorldGoneCrazy side than WorldGoneCrazy. Practically speaking, I don’t think the RWL plan will work to raise kids who retain their Christian worldview. No amount of PTA involvement is going to allow you to rewrite state laws like the ones in the original post. The correct course of action is to pull out to homeschooling, parochial schools, private schools, or other and then to defund the public schools entirely, or at least force them to compete with the other schools that actually do teach children valuable skills without infringing on moral and spiritual issues.


      1. WK: ‘The correct course of action is to pull out to homeschooling, parochial schools, private schools, or other and then to defund the public schools entirely, or at least force them to compete with the other schools that actually do teach children valuable skills without infringing on moral and spiritual issues.’

        I agree 100%, but this isn’t going to happen on a national level. I am speaking from a historic premillennialistic perspective. In other words, the world is going to get worse and worse to the point that you won’t be able run & hide (i.e. ‘pull out to homeschooling, parochial schools, private schools, or other’) from what’s about to happen.

        What’s about to happen? The 7-year tribulation:

        Definition and Overview of the Tribulation

        ‘Secular history is, for obvious reasons, generally written about the past. As believers in Jesus Christ, however, we are blessed to have the future history of the earth’s final years revealed to us through a select number of God’s prophets who have recorded it in the holy scriptures for all time. It will be the purpose of this seven-part study to explicate what the Bible has to say about the final chapter of human history, an aim of no small consequence, for we live on the threshold of that apocalyptic time, and it behooves all who call Jesus Christ their Lord and Master to be prepared for His imminent return, as well as for the period of severe testing which will precede it.’

        ‘And the voice which I heard from heaven was speaking to me again and saying, “Go and take the scroll which has been opened and is in the hand of the angel who has taken his stand on the sea and on the land.” So I went over to the angel, telling him to give me the scroll. And he said to me, “Take it and eat it, and it will make your stomach sour, but in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.” So I took the scroll from the hand of the angel and ate it. It was like sweet honey in my mouth, but my stomach was filled [past capacity].

        Revelation 10:8-10’

        ‘The scroll, as we shall see in due course, is the future history of that approaching time, and the caveat implied in this very tangible experience given to the apostle John is one that should be taken to heart and kept firmly fixed in mind: studying the events of the end times is both enjoyable and profitable, but for those to whom it falls to live through them personally, the experience will be very bitter. It would be difficult to emphasize this point too strongly. When we read of any other period in human history, the experience can be both useful and pleasurable, but is necessarily concerned with the past. God’s history of the last days is both enjoyable and spiritually edifying for us to study here and now, but, unlike any other history, entails the very real possibility, especially as those final days draw ever nearer, that we shall experience first-hand the very things we study, namely, the Great Tribulation, the most terrible period earth will ever endure. And so it is critical for all discerning Christians who contemplate these matters to remember that these things are real, that the pain and suffering, the horrendous apocalyptic events, the privation, persecution, and martyrdom, are not past events from which we have been separated by the passage of time, but imminently future occurrences, that may very well fall upon us in the full grim reality of bitter experience. If this be our lot, we shall at the end, when all has been said and done, be able to confirm first hand what John was told, that the final chapter of human history was sweet to learn about, but terribly bitter to experience in the flesh.’

        God Bless!


        1. I’m with you on God’s protection, and again, I love your passion! I just see a difference between training our kids up in the Lord AND providing a commander and flank support when they engage with the devil during their formative years (like what I see when homeschool parents bring their children to the sidewalk in front of the abortion mill, e.g.) versus training our kids up in an awesome manner (which you are clearly doing), and then sending them into the lion’s den for 7 hours a day, 200+ days a year, year after year, during their formative development, with no parent-commander or flank support anywhere to be found in view during those lengthy in-hours battle. To me, it’s like sending someone through boot camp and then just throwing them into battle with no superior or peer-support. We are supposed to trust in the Lord, but not to the point of doing unwise things, IMO. (That came across as arrogant: you are much wiser than I was when bringing up our kids.)

          Lest I be accused of having a log in my eye, I do. My recommendation comes from my own serious parenting sins and mistakes, observations of both government-schooled and home-schooled children growing up into adults (huge difference, IMO), and I am very sorry, RWL, if in arguing so passionately for the “little ones,” I left you the impression of my being arrogant (I am) or in any way superior to you as a parent (I’m not). I am 100% certain you are a better parent than I was, but it is my failures that I wish to pass along – for you to avoid. You are doing everything imaginable to do so. God bless and keep up the great work and carry on! And Happy Easter / Resurrection Sunday to you and to my still fave Christian apologetic, WK!


  12. “My view is that Christian men should not be allowed to talk to women – even to ask them the time of day or for directions – until they have a STEM degree, 2 years of private sector work experience, all debts paid off, a car and some savings.”
    You had me in hearty agreement until then, but this sounds dogmatic. STEM degrees are not for everyone. There are other avenues for success, though I agree young men should not approach young women for marriage until properly prepared.


    1. Yes. Ted Cruz does not have a STEM degree, and I like him running for President. Having said that he was a computer programmer for his parents when they were doing their consulting business.


      1. Good point! To be fair, I advocate STEM degrees,,,,it’s just what the world is now, focused on Science/Tech/Engineering/Math,,,,there are also such avenues such as military/education tracks to be pursued, thought the amount of government interference in schools today is mind-boggling!
        Sadly, I fear that STEM may become the only field where politics cannot interfere,,,,I am afraid that we are become more like sadly failed socialist nations like the Soviet Union where STEM is the only place of refuge from radical leftist agendas!


        1. Yes, there are two appeals of STEM: 1) earning money, 2) avoiding leftist indoctrination. It’s funny that you mention Soviet, that’s exactly what today’s modern university campuses remind me of (outside of STEM). So STEM is basically self-defense at this point. It falls to us to learn all the interesting and valuable non-STEM knowledge on our own time, away from the red pens of the reds in the classroom.


          1. The Soviet Union was a totalitarian dictatorship with the trappings of socialism,,,we aren’t at the point yet where you go to jail for disagreeing with whatever radical agenda the government is proposing,,,,but still you can face professional/financial ruin for expressing your beliefs.
            . Another thing that greatly concerns me is the rise of the virtual mob, where if you offend the sensibilities of whoever,e even you can face everything from harassment to threats upon your life,,,,


  13. Kunoichi: ‘If a school can convince children to reject Christ – and their own parents – then yes, they are stealing our children….’

    First, it is not the school. It’s Satan. Ephesians 6:12

    ‘For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.’ (NIV)

    And you are also ‘wrestling’ against this concept of the flesh (our sinful nature). Romans 8:7

    ‘For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God’s laws, and it never will.’ (NLT)

    Second, if your child ‘trained up in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it’ (ESV of Proverbs 22:6), then nothing spiritual or his/her sinful nature will prevent her/him from turning from the Lord. Not only do your children have to be ‘trained up’, but you must also be ‘trained up’ by studying & meditating and on the Bible and praying daily. I have give you an example of how our oldest daughter is dealing with Satan and her sinful nature in our public school system:

    In our daughter’s public school, there are teachers who tried to convince students that evolution is factual. Since we have her ‘trained up’, she response to this as being false (or simply ignores it). The teacher cannot give her an incorrect/deduct points on a true and false test, if she states that evolution is false (we had a conference with the principal and the teacher about this). Hence, if my daughter has a concern about school teachers or administrators, trying to make her do something against her Christian values, then she easily text or call us (she talks/text her mom more than me). We have already made ‘our presence felt’ at her school (as my wife states: ‘I wish they-school-would.’) We pray that she continues this behavior throughout middle school and eventually high school.

    On the other hand, our daughter, just like every human being, has a sinful nature (thanks to Adam & Eve). She constantly wants to be with the ‘Kool Kids.’ The ‘Kool Kids’ barely do their homework, receive detentions, suspensions, phone calls home, and some are even involved in drugs and having sex (yes, this is all occurring in a few public middle schools in our country. We just happened to be in one of the worst ones, but I believe God has us, in this area/school district, for a purpose. My daughter has also even informed us that there is a pregnant 7th grader in her school!). She is in the gifted program in our school district, but she wants have one foot in the ‘Kool Kids’ group and the other foot in our good graces. Through a lot of discussion and backroom deals (good grades & Christian behavior = good birthday & Christmas presents, and no discipline by us; I told my daughter that if I have to come to school because you have been misbehaving, except for physically defending yourself, then we will definitely have to ‘go Old School on you with my belt or cord’ in school. The home school counselor said that we can even use his room if we need to do this…lol… So far we never had to do this), we (my wife & I) had to let her see/know about how Satan works, and what we, as her parents, stand for. So far, we are very proud of her.

    Your child can be a saint/Christian from k-12 (and even spend k-12 in a private, religious/Christian school or be home schooled by Christians), but go away to college, or leave home, and walk away from the faith. This has happened countless times, and the decision to remain a Christian is constantly being spiritually challenged by not only a vast majority of our public education system, but also in the work environment, and in even certain Christian churches (‘Christian churches’ marrying same sex couples; see: in the world. What do you do? Try convincing your 18 year old child to attend a Christian college (If Satan has infiltrated a few Christian churches in America, you know he is has made his presence felt in America’s Christian colleges and universities)?

    Besides prayer & living your life as a ‘righteous person’, there is almost nothing that you can do when your adult child decides to walk away from the faith (my wife said that we will stop financially supporting them in college, kick them out of our house-if they don’t go away to college or not go to college at all-or exclude them from our will, if our children walk away from the faith. My wife also states that she won’t let them come back to visit; they can only call, if they decide to walk away from the…she is serious, too!).

    As I have said before, we are coming to end of human history with the beginnings of the 7-year tribulation……..prepare yourselves for the worst time(s) man has ever encounter.

    ‘Most public schools actively discourage parents from being involved, even as they ask parents to volunteer in classrooms…’

    Wow! Didn’t know that you were not in the USA. I am not familiar how your education system works. PTA (parent teacher association) is only a method of volunteering in your child’s school to help make the school’s learning environment a better place for your child (or for parents to play an active role in your child’s education). Please visit the site: for more info (I don’t know if Canada has a national PTA organization?).

    God Bless!


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