Category Archives: Podcasts

MUST-HEAR: A great debate on whether the Bible condones slavery

From Justin Brierley and the Unbelievable radio show, also known as the “If You Like” radio show.

Topic: “Does the Bible Condone Slavery?”

The MP3 file is here.

Details:

The Bible is often criticised for either supporting or not condemning the institution of slavery.  So how should we treat portions of Scripture in both the Old and New Testaments that relate to slavery?  Why does the Old Testament contain laws regarding the treatment of slaves? Does Paul condemn or affirm the institution?

Bob Price is a former US church minister whose doubts about the Bible led him to ultimately reject evangelical Christian faith.  He says that the Bible is a book that reflects the time it was written in.  Slavery was acceptable and the early Christians regrettably followed suit, and did not challenge the prevailing status quo.

David Instone-Brewer is a New Testament Scholar at Tyndale House, Cambridge.  He says that, in its cultural context, the Bible goes as far as it can towards an anti-slavery message and that Christians have been at the forefront of anti-slavery movements.

My previous post on this topic is here.

My thoughts

This debate is the greatest debate I have heard in months! This is that Robert M. Price guy who is an expert in the historical Jesus who hates evangelical Christianity and has 2 PhDs. He’s extremely radical. But in this debate he was totally awesome. He was so easy to listen to, and he made perfect sense. Everything he said was moderate and reasonable.

And the Christian guy that Justin lined up was solid and well-prepared. About two-thirds of the time, the Christian they get is some useless pastor with no training. But this time Justin got a great scholar – winsome and informed. He made our side look good.

Related goodness

I noticed that Brian Auten linked to this Tawapologetics review of Rodney Stark’s book on history and Christianity, and it includes a section on Christianity and the practice of slavery. In my home, we have all of Rodney Stark’s books on our bookshelf.

Here are the main points from the slavery part:

  • First, slavery has been an institution in human cultures since before the Egyptian pyramids, all around the world.
  • Second, while European nations did delve into widespread slavery, the Church was hardly complicit in the practice.
  • Third, how monotheism provided the moral framework to condemn and outlaw slavery.
  • Fourth, details on the formation of the anti-slavery movement and Christianity’s involvement in it.
  • Fifth, enlightened secularism had little impact on the abolitionist cause.

I knew some of that stuff already from reading about the history of slavery and the abolition movement in Thomas Sowell books. But if you don’t know about it, you should read the book review.

New book on intelligent design for beginners

Jay Richards interviews Jonathan Witt, co-author of a new book “Intelligent Design Uncensored“. The other author is William A. Dembski.

The MP3 file is here.

Topics:

  • Who is Jonathan Witt and why does he like intelligent design?
  • The intended audience of the book is a complete beginner to ID theory
  • The book is very short (175 pages) and easy to read
  • A survey of the evidence for design from physics, biology and chemistry
  • The aim is to cover a lot of ground and answer the most popular objections
  • The cost of the book is low (just over $9 on Amazon!)
  • Advice for people interested in a career in intelligent design
  • Why do some religious people object to intelligent design?
  • Tips for explaining intelligent design to others

Previously I had been recommending the older book “Understanding Intelligent Design“, by William A. Dembski and Sean McDowell, which my Dad read and liked a TON. But I like to read entry-level books so that I have things to use with beginners and during courtship (to read together). You’ve got to keep books in mind for book study, and don’t forget about the popular DVDs on intelligent design – Unlocking the Mystery of Life, The Privileged Planet and Darwin’s Dilemma. Another good DVD is Icons of Evolution.

UPDATE: There is a whole article on the book with quotes here.

Sean McDowell is interviewed by atheist Luke Muehlhauser

Sean McDowell is interviewed by Common Sense Atheism. (H/T Conversant Life)

The MP3 file is here.

Topics:

  • Sean’s testimony (he is the son of Christian apologist Josh McDowell)
  • Sean’s debate with James Corbett on the grounding of morality
  • The role of public debates in Christian evangelism
  • Sean’s new book on the emergent church and the emerging generation
  • Can apologists on both sides really be honest about pursuing truth?
  • Are apologists on both sides good at encountering ideas on the other side?
  • Do doctrines like Heaven and Hell corrupt the honest pursuit of truth?
  • Why doesn’t Josh defend “Evidence that Demands a Verdict” from critics?
  • What should we make of weird moral rules in the Old Testament today?

Sean’s amazing debate:

This is a MUST-LISTEN. You will love this debate or your money back. And you can even watch the debate here.