If the UK is so secular and socialist, then why are young people rioting? Don’t young people like secularism and socialism? I thought that the enlightened Labour Party would have fixed all the problems of society with their progressive fiscal and social policies over the last decade.
This National Post article explains what the rioting youth said of their exploits.
Excerpt:
It is the joy on display that is so unsettling.
People who are protesting are by nature angry, or at least solemn. They have upraised fists and homemade signs.
But young Britons haven’t even bothered to come up with a slogan or a decent chant. They are blissfully happy as they destroy other people’s property. They are without guilt.
It can be seen in the images of giddy youths hauling flat-screen televisions out of plundered shops. It can be read in the reports where, as one witness described, a young woman looted so many sweaters from a high-end London store she tottered under their weight.
And it can be heard, starkly, in the conversation between a BBC Radio reporter and two women in Croydon who were, at 9: 30 a.m. Tuesday, drinking from a bottle of stolen rosé and talking about their night of adventure.
“Everyone was chucking things, chucking bottles, breaking into stuff,” one said.
“It was good, though; it was madness,” her friend chimed in, giggling about the craziness of it all. The first girl agreed, it was “good fun.”
The reporter asked if they had been drinking all night. “Free alcohol,” one said. Then she caught herself. “It’s the government’s fault, though. The Conservatives. It’s not even a riot. It’s showing the police we can do what we want.”
The reporter gamely tried to crack through the cognitive dissonance she was hearing. These are local people whose shops are being torched, she said. “Why are you targeting your own people?”
“It’s the rich people,” came the explanation. “It’s the people who have all got businesses. That’s why all this is happening, because of the rich people.”
Tell that to the kid, captured on video, who was sitting on the ground with a bleeding nose when someone came to his aid. He was helped up, then had his backpack emptied.
Tell that to the shop owners whose only asset was their inventory and who have lost it all to self-centred, marauding thugs. If only they had known they were “rich,” they might have taken time to enjoy their vast wealth. Instead of, you know, working.
[…]They have convinced themselves someone else is to blame, even if they identify a different culprit in consecutive breaths, and therefore they are off to pillage, loot and burn. If homes are lost to the fires? Blame the rich. Or the police. They started it all, you see.
Does that view sound familiar? Why yes – it’s the view of mainstream Democrats, including Obama and his allies in the news media.
And here’s an article that Mary and Dina sent to me explaining where these amoral children came from.
Excerpt:
An underclass has existed throughout history, which once endured appalling privation. Its spasmodic outbreaks of violence, especially in the early 19th century, frightened the ruling classes.
Its frustrations and passions were kept at bay by force and draconian legal sanctions, foremost among them capital punishment and transportation to the colonies.
Today, those at the bottom of society behave no better than their forebears, but the welfare state has relieved them from hunger and real want.
When social surveys speak of “deprivation” and “poverty”, this is entirely relative. Meanwhile, sanctions for wrongdoing have largely vanished.
[…]But it will not do for a moment to claim the rioters’ behaviour reflects deprived circumstances or police persecution.
Of course it is true that few have jobs, learn anything useful at school, live in decent homes, eat meals at regular hours or feel loyalty to anything beyond their local gang.
This is not, however, because they are victims of mistreatment or neglect.
It is because it is fantastically hard to help such people, young or old, without imposing a measure of compulsion which modern society finds unacceptable. These kids are what they are because nobody makes them be anything different or better.
A key factor in delinquency is lack of effective sanctions to deter it. From an early stage, feral children discover that they can bully fellow pupils at school, shout abuse at people in the streets, urinate outside pubs, hurl litter from car windows, play car radios at deafening volumes, and, indeed, commit casual assaults with only a negligible prospect of facing rebuke, far less retribution.
Anyone who reproaches a child, far less an adult, for discarding rubbish, making a racket, committing vandalism or driving unsociably will receive in return a torrent of obscenities, if not violence.
So who is to blame? The breakdown of families, the pernicious promotion of single motherhood as a desirable state, the decline of domestic life so that even shared meals are a rarity, have all contributed importantly to the condition of the young underclass.
The social engineering industry unites to claim that the conventional template of family life is no longer valid.
[…]This has ultimately been sanctioned by Parliament, which refuses to accept, for instance, that children are more likely to prosper with two parents than with one, and that the dependency culture is a tragedy for those who receive something for nothing.
The judiciary colludes with social services and infinitely ingenious lawyers to assert the primacy of the rights of the criminal and aggressor over those of law-abiding citizens, especially if a young offender is involved.
The police, in recent years, have developed a reputation for ignoring yobbery and bullying, or even for taking the yobs’ side against complainants.
“The problem,” said Bill Pitt, the former head of Manchester’s Nuisance Strategy Unit, “is that the law appears to be there to protect the rights of the perpetrator, and does not support the victim.”
Police regularly arrest householders who are deemed to have taken “disproportionate” action to protect themselves and their property from burglars or intruders. The message goes out that criminals have little to fear from “the feds”.
Figures published earlier this month show that a majority of “lesser” crimes – which include burglary and car theft, and which cause acute distress to their victims – are never investigated, because forces think it so unlikely they will catch the perpetrators.
[…]A teacher, Francis Gilbert, wrote five years ago in his book Yob Nation: “The public feels it no longer has the right to interfere.”
Discussing the difficulties of imposing sanctions for misbehaviour or idleness at school, he described the case of a girl pupil he scolded for missing all her homework deadlines.
The youngster’s mother, a social worker, telephoned him and said: “Threatening to throw my daughter off the A-level course because she hasn’t done some work is tantamount to psychological abuse, and there is legislation which prevents these sorts of threats.
“I believe you are trying to harm my child’s mental well-being, and may well take steps… if you are not careful.”
That story rings horribly true. It reflects a society in which teachers have been deprived of their traditional right to arbitrate pupils’ behaviour. Denied power, most find it hard to sustain respect, never mind control.
I think that last example explains the root of the problem.
Here’s the chain of causation. First, people get annoyed with the talk of moral values and moral duties that comes from religious people. They don’t want anyone telling them to set boundaries on their pursuit of pleasure.
Agnostic evolutionist Aldous Huxley explains:
I had motive for not wanting the world to have a meaning; consequently I assumed that it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption. The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics, he is also concerned to prove that there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do, or why his friends should not seize political power and govern in the way that they find most advantageous to themselves … For myself, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation, sexual and political.
The secular left government is only too happy to push this philosophy of meaninglessness in the public schools. It makes the secular left elites feel good when they undermine the moral standard that religious people use when making judgments. Judgments are bad because they make bad people feel bad about behaving badly. Judgments have to go. And if religion is the ground for moral judgments, then religion has to go. And the public schools can be used to make sure that it does go.
This new view of morality is called “moral relativism”, and it is the official view of the secular left. Basically, if there is no designer of the universe, then there is no way we ought to be. If there is no way we ought to be, then no one has a right to tell anyone how they ought to be. This is the view that the Labour Party enshrined into law, using all the power of the public schools and the state-run media. The position of the secular left is that making people feel bad by judging them is the only real evil left in the world. Just let people do whatever they want, they say – we can always tax the rich and the corporations more to make everyone come out equal in the end.
You may have noticed that my post about Theodore Dalrymple’s book “Life at the Bottom” is back in the top 10 popular posts today. Check out the post – it has links to all the chapters of a free book that explains exactly what the rioters believe, and why. The thesis of the book is that the secular left elites deliberately cause the poor to avoid taking responsibility for their actions, and to prevent anyone from holding them accountable for their own choices. It’s a must-read.
Absolutely spot on post, in both the commentary highlighted and your additions to it. How could that culture NOT become what it has and how can ours not follow suit? We have one advantage I think, and that’s a stronger and more solid segment that still holds to truth that has existed for ages. Sometimes, though, it feels like it is slipping away and that our country will be like theirs. I hope truth can prevail, but it will take a concerted effort to articulate truth in order to win hearts and minds.
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I meant to add, that his notion that they are showing the police that they can do what they want is indeed something that would not go well for such people in this country. There is an element of this crap already, in the schools that have handcuffed teachers and administrators in their efforts to maintain order, but on the streets, lawbreakers generally do get their just desserts.
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Maybe the police just can’t do their jobs because of political correctness?
Women sues UK police after failing physical:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002610/Woman-inspector-humiliated-failing-riot-test-wins-30k.html?printingPage=true
Woman sues Boston police after failing physical:
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-8018947.html
Woman sues Chicago fire department after failing physical:
http://firelawblog.com/2011/07/chicago-fire-department-faces-sex-discrimination-suit/
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Thank you Marshall! I am not on vacation any more, so I hope my writing will be better.
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Oh tripe. They are rioting for the same reasons they’ve rioted elsewhere: cops shoot unarmed man of color, no jobs, no justice and a widening gap between classes.
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Your response is an insult to every person who CHOOSES to become better than their beginning and make a success of their lives. Some CHOOSE to rise above while some decide that would require too much effort when stealing &/or selling drugs is so much easier & profitable. We are all responsible for our actions & reactions. Blaming “society” is crap. But now, let me tell you how I really feel… ;)
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My response is based on what news analysts in the UK are stating about causes of unrest in the youthful working class. Go whine to them,TC.
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Then I certainly apologize for replying directly to you. I read it believing you were expressing your belief/views.
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That’ OK, TC. People are really agitated about this. I’d be happier if it didn’t always degenerate into political fingerpointing. The solutions, to me, will need to transcend this.
As for Katrina’s epiphany in the laundromat, perhaps she’d share it?
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“no jobs, no justice and a widening gap between classes.”
I see. That’s why all the pictures of the looting rioters show them walking out of stores with arms full of books from which they mght learn how to improve their lot.
Right.
I learned all I needed to know about why some people will hever have anything, no matter how much assistance they get, back in the day I did my laundry in a laundromat.
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By the way, there IS a widening gap between classes. I agree with that much. But excuses are excuses. People always have one for taking what’s not theirs, and that includes those looting stores (the presumed “have nots”) and those that loot companies and economies (the “haves”). Frankly, I think they should both be locked up.
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