Here’s the video:
Basically, the state thinks that Christians cannot be parents because their individual morality clashes with the moral relativism and sexual hedonism of the state. Many (most) people of the people who agree with fascism will be on the political left. That’s why fascism is only and exclusively a phenomenon of the political left.
But not all people on the secular left are fascists.
Here’s some useful commentary about one of the speakers: (H/T Mary)
The historian, television and radio presenter, David Starkey is gay and an atheist. He is also an honorary member of the National Secular Society. You might therefore expect him to be clearly in favour of the ruling in the High Court this week that banned a Christian couple from fostering children because of their religious beliefs.
Starkey is not a fascist. I thought it was interesting that he mentioned his mother but not his father in the clip. Homosexuality is highly co-related with a breakdown in the relationship of the same-sex parent. When you have an absent/abusive/weak father and a domineering mother, that puts you at risk, if you are male. And the situation is reversed for women, where different environmental factors come into play, making the little girl feel devalued and vulnerable as a little girl. Parents – take heed. And be careful how you present Christianity to your children. If you present it as rules with no evidence or warrant, you will get a rebellion. If you present in the context of being informed about science, etc., within the context of a respectful, open-minded relationship, you may win the child over.
Back to the video – I thought it was interesting when the red-haired woman said that Christians could have their pro-life, pro-marriage, anti-slavery, anti-infanticide morality at home, but at work they had to object the state’s version of morality. She would fit in well in Nazi Germany or Communist North Korea. David Starkey would not have fit into to those fascist regimes at all.
Fascism is the imposition of state morality and purposes over individual morality and purposes. Conservatism limits the state’s ability to impose morality and purpose onto the citizens, and also limits involuntary wealth redistribution from one group of individuals to another. In conservatism everyone makes their own choices and pays their own way. In liberalism, the government endorses certain lifestyles over others, and transfers wealth involuntarily from unfavored groups to subsidize the favored groups – as with taxpayer funding of abortion, in vitro fertilization or sex changes. Christians are usually not favored by the state because our strong moral views conflict with the sexual hedonism that is so prevalent today. We have nothing to gain from an overbearing state, and much to lose.
Here’s a debate I posted a while back in which British fascists agree with the red-haired woman that Christians have no human rights to things like free speech, and that some group of people (atheists) have the right to silence other groups (Christians) because they are “offended”.
WINTERY KNIGHT 
Very good post, apart from the bit, “David Starkey is on the left, but comes out on the right on this issue.”
Starkey is not at ALL on the left- he is famous in Britain precisely FOR having a very right-wing political outlook!!
On a few issues he might come down on the ‘liberal’ side, but he is definitely more a Tory than most people.
You know the most pathetic thing about this?
The one guy who is supposed to be a member of the conservative party on the panel was one of the few who was spouting the pathetic authoritarian leftist rhetoric, who got completely ripped apart in the debate. Iain Duncan Smith who was actually even leader of the Conservative Party for a time. I cannot believe it.
It was Starkey who spoke to the most sense despite being gay and atheist, and then after that it was the guy from the economist which has a liberal viewpoint as well!! The supposedly ‘conservative’ Smith probably comes last!
But it was so so encouraging for me to hear them share their concerns about this ruling, and that it was a majority of them who weren’t happy with it as well.
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I’ll fix the post! I did not know that.
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Thanks for fixing it.
The worst thing is that there is now no major political party in Britain with common sense and decent views on freedom of religion and morality. It is just ridiculous.
The ‘conservative’ party now has almost nothing particularly conservative about them at all…it’s an absolute disgrace.
They are already in governemnt with the leftist-authoritarian lib dems (who are not as bad as the labour party at least), they are anti-religious freedom, they are pro-political correctness, pro-EU, liberal and very anti-Christian.
I have lost all faith in politics in Britain.
Even the journalists speak more sense than the politicians!!
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I know how you feel… it is VERY frustrating. I don’t know where Christians in the UK are supposed to go.
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Oh, that’s easy: America.
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I hear rumours that in London and south UK there are entire sections of cities that are, except for passers-though, Muslim. And not Canadian-Muslim, but full-on burqua-clad-in-broad-daylight, capital-M Muslim?
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Lol yes there are. Not only that, there are different sections for different nationalities. There’s a turkish area where all the shops have turkish names and you feel like you’re in istanbul, there’s a somalian area where you will barely ever see a white person, then there’s the pakistani areas and the bangladeshi areas etc.
Multiculturalism has completely failed in many places.
A lot of these people also don’t speak a word of english- why would they need to if they never meet any english people?!
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This court ruling really worries me. As a Brit, I can quite realistically see a time where biological parents will have their children seized from them, because they teach their children that homosexual sex is wrong.
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Yes, this is exactly what I inferred from this story. As Dr. Morse points out, the courts are moving from RECOGNIZING biological parents to ASSIGNED parenthood. If courts have a right to assign parenthood (United States), and the state owns children and has a right to force them to attend public school (Germany, Sweden), and Christian foster parents are UNFIT for raising children, then you have all the pieces to seize children of Christian parents and assign them to anyone – including single mothers and gay couples or polygamous couples.
Many Christians voted for this when they vote for leftists because “we need to tax the rich more” or because “we need to bring the troops home”. Being ignorant on fiscal and foreign policy issues causes Christians to vote in leftists who will destroy the Christian faith itself. We should be talking about this in churches, but we’re not. We’re too busy trying to make people feel good with lots of live music and praise hymns. And people keep telling me that we don’t need to make influential children – because children know better than adults and we don’t want them to be UNHAPPY! I am told that a baker and candle-stick-maker is as good as a Supreme Court Justice because “God can use anyone”. We’re going to “God can use anyone” ourselves into oblivion. It certainly is LESS WORK for parents to say “God can use anyone”, and for people who think that God need to be served effectively, this is an ideal way to get out of the hard work.
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Good point Wintry Knight. How can we as Christian parents fail to teach our children to use and develop their minds–use their critical thinking–and spur them on to a full intellectual life. Were generally good with the heart and soul part of Jesus’ command.
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