Welcome to episode 6 of the Knight and Rose podcast! This is the first episode where my audio is improved, so you should not notice an echo. In this episode, we discuss what it means to be masculine according to a Christian worldview. If you like this episode, please subscribe to the podcast, and subscribe to our Youtube channel. We would appreciate it if you left us a 5-star review on Apple iTunes / Apple Podcasts.
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Christian apologists Wintery Knight and Desert Rose discuss apologetics, policy, culture, relationships, and more. Each episode equips you with evidence you can use to boldly engage anyone, anywhere. We train our listeners to become Christian secret agents. Action and adventure guaranteed. 30-45 minutes per episode. New episode every week.
Episode 6:
Episode 6 Summary:
Wintery Knight and Desert Rose discuss male nature. We discuss Bible verses that describe masculine virtues and roles. We discuss how masculinity is portrayed in classical movies, classical literature, and military history. We talk about male strengths, and how men leverage their strengths to lead and equip others. We talk about which women are the most attractive to men who are on mission. We talk about whether men have to get married and have children in order to be masculine.
Speaker biographies
Wintery Knight is a black legal immigrant. He is a senior software engineer by day, and an amateur Christian apologist by night. He has been blogging at winteryknight.com since January of 2009, covering news, policy and Christian worldview issues.
Desert Rose did her undergraduate degree in public policy, and then worked for a conservative Washington lobbyist organization. She also has a graduate degree from a prestigious evangelical seminary. She is active in Christian apologetics as a speaker, author, and teacher.
References
Cultural Marxism, a lecture from Founders Ministries featuring Pastor Voddie Baucham
The First of the Few (movie, aka “Spitfire”)
High Noon (movie)
A lesson about men for marriage-minded women from the movie “High Noon” by Wintery Knight
Cyrano de Bergerac (movie, based on a play by Edmond Rostand)
A Man for All Seasons (movie, based on a play by Robert Bolt)
Emma (movie, based on a book by Jane Austen. Note: the 2009 version is my favorite)
Badly Done, Emma (a scene from the 2009 movie version of Emma)
Wahoo: The Patrols of America’s Most Famous World War II Submarine by Richard “Dick” O’Kane
Clear the Bridge! The War Patrols of the U.S.S. Tang by Richard “Dick” O’Kane
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Strength Of The Titans by Kevin MacLeod
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WINTERY KNIGHT 
I only semi-jokingly say to some of my male Christian friends that sometimes I have to be a benevolent dictator as a man who is a leader (and yes, it’s a bit sociopathic and I don’t say this lightly):
Yes, I have to obey God, especially what I know is the right thing to do, and I don’t think it’s going to be popular.
I definitely agree that good men should take roles of leadership. It’s been a tough challenge … I’ll illustrate with a story from my early 20’s:
So I have an aerospace engineering undergraduate degree (a lot of overlap with mechanical engineering) in addition to seminary degree. Your regular readers probably know all this. Plus they can probably hazard a guess where I went to school. I was at a retreat for Christian 20-somethings and there was a challenge involving constructing the tallest tower with a bunch of common day materials (like tubes, tape, etc.) It was supposed to be an ice breaker.
It became very evident that those who were getting their ideas for the tower weren’t mechanical engineers nor did that have kind of background … nor did they have a strong STEM background nor had they done many STEM contests — they just had the most dominant personalities. We ended building a very flimsy and leaning tower.
(Did I mention my high school team won the local university’s Physics Olympics contest in my final year of high school? This was a contest open to the province. And I captained the team.)
So anyway, I realized towards the end of the time left in the challenge I should have just taken charge at the beginning of the challenge and told people what to do.
(And after this contest, I did serve in many capacities in my church which helped me to see similar lessons…)
I think in a way, the story and my subsequent experiences highlighted to me several things:
* the best person is not always going to be put in charge (note the passive voice here)
* the most vocal and assertive people often try to take charge, but they’re not always the best people for the task / job / etc.
* there will always be people who want to be in charge and
* the men who have excellent character and competency need to take charge, lest people who are less competent, have less character/integrity/etc., who are less godly, be in charge
I think I have to go a step further than I went in my 20’s:
* the godly leader should, after discerning for good character, also seek to build up and to empower other leaders (as you say “getting you the resources you need”, “being equipped and equipping others”)
And yes, in terms of marriage, many theologians have emphasized that conformity to God’s will is more important than superficial ideas that we might have about “compatibility” or “chemistry.” The purpose of marriage is to help us obey God — that is, we should be better together and more obedient to God together, than apart.
I for one definitely looked for a mature Christian woman who was trying to obey God and to serve God.
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Yes, you would have been serving them by helping them to obtain a good result. The value being offered was your know how. But when people see leadership as telling people what to do, they dont see how leading is value. Our next episode talks about this!
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