Sandra Fluke: Georgetown students spend $3000 on contraception

From CNS News, a very funny story.

Excerpt:

A Georgetown co-ed told Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s hearing that the women in her law school program are having so much sex that they’re going broke, so you and I should pay for their birth control.

Speaking at a hearing held by Pelosi to tout Pres. Obama’s mandate that virtually every health insurance plan cover the full cost of contraception and abortion-inducing products, Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke said that it’s too expensive to have sex in law school without mandated insurance coverage.

Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception, Fluke’s research shows.

“Forty percent of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggled financially as a result of this policy (Georgetown student insurance not covering contraception), Fluke reported.

It costs a female student $3,000 to have protected sex over the course of her three-year stint in law school, according to her calculations.

“Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school,” Fluke told the hearing.

$3,000 for birth control in three years? That’s a thousand dollars a year of sex – and, she wants us to pay for it.

Yes, us. Where do you think the insurance companies forced to cover this cost get the money to pay for these co-eds to have sex? It comes from the health care insurance premiums you and I pay.

But, back to this woman’s complaint that she’s spending $3,000 for birth control during her time in college.

“For a lot of students, like me, who are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary,” she complains.

So, she earns enough money in just one summer to pays for three full years of sex. And, yes, they are full years – since she and her co-ed classmates are having sex nearly three times a day for three years straight, apparently.

The problem with government-run health insurance is that it turns into nothing but vote buying. The government forces everyone to pay for coverages they don’t want so that they can redistribute the wealth from people who don’t engage in risky, costly behaviors to people who do. It encourages people to be more reckless and irresponsible when someone else is paying for it. In economics, this is called “moral hazard”. Promiscuity costs money – money for contraceptives, abortions, etc. What happens when support for promiscuity it is counted as “health care” is that people who abstain from promiscuity end up subsidizing the promiscuity of others. And that’s why we get more of it – you get more of anything when you reduce the costs of it.

The most troubling thing about subsidizing premarital sex is that research has shown that premarital sex reduces the stability of marriages as well as the quality of marriages. Another study showed that teenage premarital sex increases the risk of divorce. Furthermore, the more marriages break down, the more society pays to deal with the fallout – $112 billion per year according to a recent study.

The same thing happens with subsidized single motherhood by choice – the more that the government subsidizes single motherhood by choice, the more of it you get. Many women want the baby without the husband now, and it’s easier for them when the government pays for it by taking money from workers and businesses. This is in spite of the research showing how harmful the decline of marriage is to society, especially because the decline of marriage leads to increased child poverty and increased violence to women and children.

The testimony by Sandra Fluke reminds me of that Christina Hoff Sommers book “Who Stole Feminism?” where the feminists just make up numbers out of nowhere in order to blame men and portray themselves as helpless victims in need of new laws, policies and bailouts. I guess this is what they learn to do in Women’s Studies programs.

What’s scary to me is that women like Sandra Fluke become lawyers and judges and they do influence what society will look like. Men have to make decisions about what to do in a society that does not support men or marriage very much anymore.

UPDATE: A little bit more information about Sandra Fluke.

I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy. During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.

In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her.

The whole thing was engineered, but don’t expect the mainstream media to report that to you.

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62 thoughts on “Sandra Fluke: Georgetown students spend $3000 on contraception”

  1. “the feminists just make up numbers out of nowhere”

    Seriously, if you use the Planned Parenthood numbers of the highest cost of the Pill ($50) and multiply it out over 3 years, you come up with $1800 for 3 years. (Go by their lowest number, $15, and you’re looking at $540 for 3 years.) Where do their numbers come from? Does anyone bother to fact check? When they are so outlandish, does anyone stop to say, “Wait, if THAT was so ridiculous, what about the rest?” No, of course not. Especially since the ORIGINAL question (“Young lady, why should we all have to pay for you to have all the sex you want regardless of moral implications or even common sense problems?”) never gets asked.

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  2. These broads are a bunch of sluts! My God – I thought this was a good school with a challenging curriculum, but it sounds to me like all they do is screw.

    My daughter is NOT going here.

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  3. Ms Fluke, Women of low income, students included, have access to birth control products at local Planned Parenthood locations with financial support already being supplied buy taxpayers. It appears to me, based on your comments at Nancy Pelosi ‘s hearing, that according to your data 40% of the female law students at Georgetown University are using sex as your recreational outlet while in school with limited funds for entertainment. I’m now retired, also on limited income now. Your request or demand, whatever you consider it, has inspired me to consider the following request based on the logic you used in the hearing. I’m about to ask the U. S. Government to either pay for or require my insurance company to pay the costs of maintaining my recreational outlet, the boat I use for boating and fishing. Your logic makes sense. I can no longer afford to pay for the up-keep or repair of my boat on this fixed income thus the government must now pick up those costs to allow me to continue to have access to my recreational outlet. If you were having sex to produce a child or I used my boat to provide income, neither one of us could use recreational needs as the reason for our request for assistance. Hunters, golfers, campers, soccer, tennis & softball players. Take notice, Ms Fluke might have opened some doors for us.

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  4. The article calls Fluke a “leftist”… I don’t know if she is or not, but she damn sure has been coached by one!!!!! I’m guessing “Nazi” Palosi.

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  5. Think yourself lucky, in UK they are now having medicals in school and giving the under the skin contraception (sorry my mind has gone blank on the name). These girls are as young as 13 and 14. If the parents find out it’s by accident, they aren’t asked or informed. It is still illegal to have sex with a child under 16, but the government is still sponsoring it and encouraging it.

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  6. 3 grand a year, just for rubbers and pills. How about studying? G-Town sounds more like a frat house than Law School. Her parents must be so proud.

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  7. My wife and I (not yet married) were able to not spend money on birth control all through college. Abstinence is quite affordable. Pretty soon you’ll have to start paying for fraternity party beer and other non-academic “college experiences”.

    Also, PCOS is usually associated with obesity. Without knowing what the true medical history of the lady in question is, it’s quite a slanted view of the cause. It’s also interesting that she cannot have children, but she’s not in a relationship that will produce children. That means she probably expects insurance to pay for donors, eggs, etc.

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  8. Discounts:
    Clinics such as those operated by Planned Parenthood offer discounted birth control pills to women who qualify.

    In most states, Wal-Mart, Target and Kroger pharmacies offer a limited selection of generic birth control pills for $9 per month.

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  9. I’d like to try her to see that if spending that much on birth control is worth it..They must be lined up at her door, it’s surprising that she has time for school work.

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  10. What are they teaching at Georgetown? I use to think that it was a good school, but how my opinion has changed. The young ladies of Georgetown should try planned parenthood or studying. Its a lot cheaper for everyone involved

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  11. I think this is one of the saddest commentaries on our society that I have ever encountered. Our culture has become totally degraded when a woman can testify in public about her immorality and believe that she is doing something positive for women.

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  12. That woman is promiscuous. Have some morals. I would really like to see her parents. My gosh, concentrate on school.

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  13. Risky behavior: the pleasure of eating at McDonalds
    Results: harm of self
    Response: Outrage and call for laws controlling menu.

    Risky behavior: the pleasure of promiscuity
    Results: harm of self, society, future society
    Response: calls for government funding to subsidize behavior.

    What’s wrong with this picture?

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  14. What is she using that costs $3000. Honey Walmart has pills at $9 a month. Or if sex is so important quit eating an buy your birth control. This is just not an issue.

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  15. Before my husband knew me, he wouldn’t go with a woman who offered or agreed to sleep with him any time for the first month at least. He said if they go with me so easily, how many more have they been with.

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    1. That’s true. I have a non-Christian friend who warns women not to have sex with him, because it sends him the wrong message. They tell him that it’s just sex, so he does it, and then they start expecting that he will have a relationship with them. He tells them NO because if they are that easy, then he is afraid that they won’t be faithful.

      Note: I have chastised him a ton for giving in to them, and he agrees, but for a non-Christian man, it’s hard to say no to free sex. For me it’s easy. I never ever ever go out with a woman until she has read a few books and put it into practice. That’s how I keep the bad ones away. My motivation is to make sure my children have a stay-at-home, attentive, engaged mother. I want her to have degrees and some work experience – enough to navigate them through graduate school so that they will have an impact in high places.

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  16. as a home owning tax payer I dont want to pay public school tax,let alone pay for a student or anybody else to have sex ,safe or otherwise,have an abortion ,or their kid to go to public(state) school. This crap is only an issue because of that leftist idiot in the white house WTF!!!

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  17. Just don’t have sex until you are married. Silly asking the government to pay for such stuff. I think there is more important issues in US at this moment in time.

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  18. It costs a female student $3,000 to have protected sex over the course of her three-year stint in law school, according to her calculations.

    Boo hoo…. I went thru 4 yrs of BS engineering and 8 years for a PhD in chemistry, and in those 12 years, spent exactly ZERO on contraception. Because I never had occasions fo them. Because skanks like her, were too busy fornicating with bad boys, to consider settling down and marrying a good guy like me.

    The guys who ENJOYED HER BODY should be the ones who pay for her contraceptives. Not the guys she rejected, or the guys she never met.

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  19. The best contraception is” keep your legs crossed.” Doesn’t cost a penny and you will have nothing to regret

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    1. When I was at school in the 50s and 60s sex education was rarely taught in schools. I went to a catholic school and St Mary did believe in sex education. She held up a penny (pounds, shillings and pence in those days) and said that this was the best contraceptive in the world. We all looked at her wondering what she was going on about. She then added hold it between your knees.

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      1. And I just want to emphasize that men should be chaste as well, since they can’t lead worth a darn if they don’t have self-control. Once a man has had sex, it becomes harder for him to be objective about it. He has to have it, and the discipline needed to evaluate women to be mothers and wives goes out the window. That’s my opinion.

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          1. it’s hardly complimentary being ‘evaluated’. With most people who have successful marriages they didn’t go LOOKING for a partner as if were the end of the world if they didn’t marry. They went out with the future partner for quite a long time and new inside them that it was the right person. They also sat down and talked about their future together. These people, both the men and the women’ did not see each other as goods in a shop window or a meat market.

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  20. heard tonight on hannity that the average cost per condom is $0.20. If a student has sex five times a night every night of the year, she would pay $365 per year buying condoms for her partners (because there ain’t a guy on the planet having sex five times a night every night for a whole year). FIVE TIMES a night, every night for A YEAR.

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      1. Health insurance policies that cover “contraceptives” do not include condoms or other over the counter items. So, we’re talking about the cost of hormonal birth control. The $3000 would be the cost of a woman being on hormonal birth control over three years and paying those costs out of pocket. That cost doesn’t change whether the woman is married, just using BC for health reasons or sleeping with a different man every week.

        I think there are a few crossed wires on this story because the Catholic position affirmed by Georgetown is that hormonal birth control is wrong for everyone, even married people. This is what Ms. Fluke is attacking–the categorical nature of the Church’s position that will not provide for birth control at all, even in situations that have nothing to do with sexual activity, like PCOS or women with irregular cycles (there is apparently a health exception, but she complained that, effectively, the exception was not honored at GT). The broader conservative audience, however, assumed Ms. Fluke to be defending promiscuity, which is not what her testimony is about…at least not on the surface. (again, people can read between the lines)

        However, as I mentioned, I was deeply alarmed and saddened on more than one occasion to hear about the sexual exploits of the undergrad women at the university I studied at, so promiscuity is definitely rampant. But I think the hook-up crowd tends to rely more on condoms than birth control, as birth control doesn’t protect against STDs.

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  21. “This is what Ms. Fluke is attacking–the categorical nature of the Church’s position that will not provide for birth control at all, even in situations that have nothing to do with sexual activity, like PCOS or women with irregular cycles (there is apparently a health exception, but she complained that, effectively, the exception was not honored at GT).”

    Yep. Sure she is.

    She was a staff member of a Leftist “reproductive rights” organization when she was younger.

    She attended an institution (of her own free will) where the administration holds certain beliefs inconsistent with her nasty little agenda.

    She demands that I have my money confiscated at gunpoint to pay for her sexual escapades.

    Logically, the vast majority of students paying for birth control need it because they are fornicating. Not b/c they are sweet young ladies who were raped or need BC due to gynecological problems.

    I attended GULC myself, and I can’t say I saw anyone get raped. I do recall several UNMARRIED students having sex or talking about their sexual escapades.

    I would say that anyone who thinks this whole issue is about exceptions like rape, medical need, & so on is deliberately obtuse. Yet that would be too generous of me.

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    1. Are you talking about this:
      http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/sandra-flukes-appearance-is-no-fluke/

      Quote:

      I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy. During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.

      In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her.

      I don’t think the mainsteam media is going to report that.

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    2. it also sounds as if she is anti-catholic church. The RC church has always been anti-birth control (I’m not by the way, but am anti-abortion) so why should they change now. If people go to work for them, they must realise their view, people have been shouting about it long enough. If you don’t like their views, and want someone that will pay for birth control insurance, don’t work for them.

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      1. I think that Christians should not leave it at that and should push for decreased control of the secular government over the free market. Christians need to work, buy and sell, and it’s better for us if we keep what we earn, have freedom to buy what we need and no more, and can sell what we need and no more. Christians need freedom, and socialism is anti-freedom. A good book to read on the importance of the free market for all freedom is “The Road to Serfdom” by Nobel prize winning economist F.A. Hayek. This book was the core of the Thatcher, Reagan and Harper revolutions in Britain, America and Canada, respectively.

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    3. “I can’t say I saw anyone get raped.” I’m sorry, but obviously you didn’t, as those crimes don’t happen on the street. But that’s beside the point. I don’t believe the issue is about exceptions, but rather about the right of a Catholic institution to not provide contraceptives to its students.

      Whether most students are fornicating or not is actually not at issue because enough graduate students are, in fact, married and therefore have a right to engage in sexual activity with their spouse. What she is attacking is not chastity but religious liberty.

      I agree with the Georgetown stance, but think the conservative response has missed the ball.

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  22. Assuming that Georgetown is a privately funded university, there’s a bunch of “baggage” that follows. Funding for private universities comes from tuition and endowments from private institutions. In this case, those endowments are probably Catholic. As a result, the university will probably adhere to the will of those donors. The donors are Catholic, so it’s a Catholic school and has a charter to match. It’s a Catholic school.
    With that, comes adherence to the Catholic beliefs. No abortion, contraceptives, etc goes in that realm. My wife went to a Southern Baptist private university (Baylor) and they have similar views and it’s all over the place that they are Southern Baptist.

    If she’s bright enough for her education, she should have seen this all over the place and been aware of the expectations of the organization when she was admitted. I don’t go to Taco Bell and complain that they don’t sell Coca-Cola products (they are owned by Pepsi). This is the same idea. It’s not part of their organization to participate in providing contraceptives.

    I think she’s confusing those ideas when adding the story of PCOS and rape. Birth control doesn’t solve rape. PCOS is a condition that requires a doctor’s prescription and puts the doctor at risk for malpractice if not providing a prescription. I think those parts of the argument need to be pulled out and reviewed independently of the discussion of providing birth control to women. They’re designed to leave behind rational thinking in favor of emotional sensationalism.

    I will not judge her on her sexual choices, because that is not the road to bringing her (or anyone else) to Christ, but I will say that the private institution has a right to it’s beliefs. I’m more worried about her idea that a private organization must change it’s DNA to meet her wants. Sex is not a need. My children do not need sex. They are fully cared for if they have clothes, warmth, food, and shelter. Education isn’t really a need, either. It’s a privilege. Sex is a want. Like soda, twinkies, and sky-diving, it’s something you can enjoy as a part of life, but should not be confused with a need or a right.

    I’m also confused by the math. Assuming 3 years for graduate school, that’s $1000 a year for pills. That’s $83 a month. Good budgeting can help pay for that, since it’s, apparently a VERY high priority. It can also vary, because the Pill has different variations of dosage, etc. If I assume that you have class 5 days a week and 4 weeks a month, that’s roughly $4.16 a day, which about the price of a latte at Starbucks. Cut out the coffee on the way to class and you have your VERY important medicine taken care of.

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  23. Great post, except for one thing:

    “I will not judge her on her sexual choices”

    Just think for a moment. She is demanding the fruits of your labor to subsidize her fornication. $50.00 says this woman is one of the same leftists who screamed about “Bible Thumpers” wanting to “get the government involved in people’s bedrooms”. Now the Obama administration is indeed forcing the government to get involved in the bedroom, albeit for the purpose of advancing Obama’s hedonist/secularist agenda.

    If she wants to force me, at the barrel of a gun, to pay for her birth control, then her sexual choices most certainly DO become my business. Would any sane person say it’s none of Geico’s business if you’re accumulating DUI’s? Or none of State Farm’s business if your home is a fire risk? Of course not. The absurd thing is, she and her defenders demand nobody judge their personal choices while deliberately

    1) placing themselves in the public eye, and

    2) confiscating our wealth to pay for private behavior that is, objectively, unnecessary and dangerous.

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    1. I was referring to the colorful names that people have applied to her. I must, like the crowd, walk away from stoning her because I, too, have sinned.

      With that said, her personal life should not drive public policy. I don’t expect others to subsidize my personal choices, neither should she. That’s why I say that the issues with rape and PCOS need to be taken out of the discussion. She’s clouded the argument with unrelated issues.

      Once again, I support the right for private organizations to make decisions about what they will and will not cover. The idea that they must sell or offer a service that violates their conscience is unacceptable

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  24. 3k a year on birth control is a lie. Most expensive birth control that I am aware of is about $90 or so. 90×12= 1080.

    Plan B is around $55. So even if she was using that once a week, 55×4= 220. 220×12= $2640

    That is the only possible way she can honestly be spending 3k on birth control. Of course, Plan B IS NOT birth control and she would be rounding up about $350 that she really isn’t spending.

    Calling her a slut/whore may have been a tad extreme. But a liar would for sure have fit the bill

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    1. Just to be accurate, she said $3000 over the course of law school (3 years). That would be $1000 a year.

      Also, Wintery, I believe the name calling Dan is referring to are the statements made by Rush Limbaugh, nothing that you said.

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  25. My sister had one ovary removed and had two children later. From what I can see, the removal of one ovary will not cause you to go into early menopause. Therefore, it seems Ms. Fluke is exaggerating another point!

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  26. If she isn’t a slut, then the word ‘slut’ needs to be retired from the dictionary. Rush was right. He should not have apologized.

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