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Wintery Knight interviewed for the Apologetics 315 podcast

This is a re-post about the interview I did in April 2021.

I’ve met the two gentlemen who host the Apologetics 315 podcast in person (Brian Auten and Chad Gross) and they asked me to come on and talk about my experience doing apologetics online with an alias. I thought that I would link to them, and then add an important point that I wanted to say during the podcast, but I forgot to come back to it.

Anyway, you can listen to the episode here on their web site.

Here’s the description:

Today’s Show Notes:
Episode 016 – Christianity in the Public Square with Wintery Knight

In this episode, Brian Auten and Chad Gross interview Christian blogger Wintery Knight on the topics of Christian blogging, apologetics in the workplace and in the public square, how policy effects Christian freedoms, and more.

1:30 – Discussing moral and ethical issues, having an alias, and observing the changers in culture.
8:00 – The conflict between the Happiness Quest and the Truth Quest.
10:00 – The difficulty getting apologetics into the church. The importance of a commitment to a truth quest.
13:00 – Doing apologetics on the internet.
17:30 – How to interact with skeptics, and what to do when the people you interact with become hostile.
20:00 – In-person interaction and discerning the right way to communicate in the workplace or public square.
25:20 – How can Christians be informed about what’s going on in culture and public policy? How does one become equipped? Resources for being equipped.
37:00 – “The Equality Act” and religious liberty issues.
43:00 – The speed of cultural change in the US, and the importance of religious freedoms.
52:45 – Christianity and politics.

If you’re looking for a great podcast on apologetics, these guys are interviewing a lot of my favorite people – Craig Hazen, Fazale Rana, and soon Stephen C. Meyer. If you like the interview, please leave a comment. If you have any questions about any of the resources or blog posts that I mentioned, please let me know.

Extra point

So, the extra point I wanted to make was about the question of how should Christians feel about the ascent of the woke people.

To start, consider this interesting article from Not The Bee, where they feature a whole bunch of moderates and classical liberals explaining why they walked away from the left because of the left’s descent into censorship and cancel culture.


In addition to that, there was an interesting survey about which group of people were more likely to self-report being diagnosed with a mental illness. It was the far-left people. And this data came from Pew Research, which skews to the left.

So, the point I wanted to make was this. The people on the left are only able to persist in being on the left, by exchanging reason and evidence for emotions and coercion. I admit that things look bad now, especially when you look at the powerful big corporations who are allying with the secular left mob. But I don’t think that people who are fixated on left-wing concerns are comfortable for moderate people to talk with. I think that secular leftism has left extreme leftists without the basic moral framework for respectful dialog. What’s more, I don’t think that secular leftists are very good at friendship, dating and especially marriage. You can’t marry someone who is lacks charity and self-control.

In view of this, I think that there is a tremendous opportunity to provide moderates and open-minded people with a safe place to express their views and seek truth. In order to be ready for them, I recommend that you prepare yourself to have respectful discussions by reading good books, and listening to good debates. The more you can stay calm while listening to different points of view, the more that people will want to speak to you. Please don’t rely on the church to train you. We’re not doing a very good job of training Christians about different points of view in the church. So, you’ll have to train yourself if you want to develop the ability to debate and disagree in a calm and respectful way.

Exciting news

By the way, I mentioned on the podcast that my Bible study partner and I are planning to start a podcast of our own. I explain what it will be about and about my co-host during the episode.

If you missed my previous appearance on Tim Stratton’s Free Thinking Ministries podcast, then you can listen to that here.

8 thoughts on “Wintery Knight interviewed for the Apologetics 315 podcast”

  1. Great job, WK!

    For me it was gradual too. In the 70s and maybe very early 80s, I was still a pretty liberal, but responsible, atheist. Although only in worldview and my private life since you can’t design spacecraft with a liberal mindset during that process. I mean, it would never fly, right? The Clinton years really shook me up, and of course I had been voting GOP since 1984 with Reagan. The Clinton years were when the scales really started coming off – I was stunned by the outright lying, immorality, media propaganda, etc. As I started to understand the history of the Dimm Party – slavery, Jim Crow, abortion, welfare plantations, etc, they really became my enemy. I wasn’t a Christian yet, and I had been voting conservative for some years, but I sure understood how evil the Dimms were.

    This was excellent preparation that God was doing with me since during the Bush years I finally discovered authentic Christians – real ones, not churchians – and guess what? We agreed on literally everything except for that Jesus Christ fellow. So while the evils of the Dimm Party did make me conservative, the more important thing I came to discover was that true Biblical Christians cannot be liberal / Leftist, and in fact are obligated to fight such evil.

    Now if we can just get more real Christians in the weak sauce GOP of 2021!

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    1. WGC, I always enjoy you comments :)
      I think the embrace of Christianity often begins with one’s eyes being open to the spin that secularists have put on history, politics, and social issues. Once you become receptive to objective truth and understand that you often have to put (sometimes only moderate) effort in to uncover it, many of the surface objections to Christianity start to fall away, and you can begin to see the reasonability of it as a coherent worldview.


      1. I thought it was an excellent article and the comments were good too. I couldn’t reply to the comments, and it’s off topic, but I would wonder what the person you were sparring with thought of the question “why was it conservative Biblical Christians of multiple denominations, instead of atheists, who brought forth the Scientific Revolution, ended chattel slavery, opposed Hitler, and ended Jim Crow laws, sometimes to their deaths? There were plenty of atheists around by then. Where were they?” He might reply that there were plenty of “Christians” on the wrong side of those human rights issues but the obvious reply to that is that they were obvious liberals ignoring Christ’s Second Greatest Commandment.

        As for me, I like debating anyone. Sometimes I’m so bored on the streets that I ask God to send someone to debate me and sometimes He does! It’s fun. I don’t know who I prefer to debate but I do like people who listen and don’t just come up to me to overtalk me. You are right that some atheists might remind me of myself but I was also a very strange atheist. My one dogma was to be against abortion, whether I was liberal or conservative. Sometimes I do meet those types but it’s rare these days.

        I was debating a homosexual pro-abort who asked great questions about the Flood and Canaanites. He was trying to understand why God can “abort” the world and the Canaanites but moms can’t abort their children. It was a great conversation about the difference between Judgment and sin.

        I do agree that there is better structure to a debate with a person taking the atheist position than a spiritual one. I think that Jesus dealt more softly with the lost than the religious/spiritual, although I would point out that the new atheism is a religion unto itself. And you did a great job of listing their dogma too!

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        1. My comment settings only require a name and email, and that the first comment from a person be approved.

          I think you are right that he would appeal to all those “Christians” on the opposite side of each issue who used the Bible to justify their case. That would be a long thread to unpack, and he’d probably reference the “No True Scotsman” fallacy to claim you’re only qualifying people as true Christians if they were on the right side of history, as you saw it.

          OT stuff can be hard to debate, because there are so many theological presuppositions that one must first have to make sense of what God is justified in doing vs what we humans are.

          My preference with the “spiritual” types is to push back on the source of their authority for believing anything is true. With atheists I like to point out that they have a worldview also, and have many of the same questions to answer as religion does, then deconstruct the answers they give or even the ability to offer certain answers.

          I once heard (in person) someone ask Christian philosopher Terry Miethe what his favorite argument was for the existence of God. He dismissed the question as ridiculous, and said that he prefers to have them offer their competing worldview and show that it is absurd. I also once heard Greg Bahnsen say that he was a Christian because of “the impossibility of the contrary.” This kind of thinking resonates with me. The Christian worldview is robust and coherent. Whether someone likes it or believes it is another matter.


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