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Should men marry women who think relationship boundaries are “emotional abuse”?

One of the reasons that I am not married today is because I tried to set spiritual and moral boundaries with women I wanted marry, but those boundaries were rejected. The purpose of the boundaries was to get the woman to be suitable for a marriage designed to serve God. In every case, the relationships ended. And this is actually becoming more common, under the influence of feminism.

Here is an article from The Federalist, written by Kylee Griswold.

She writes:

Who would have thought perpetual adolescent Jonah Hill would be good at grown-up relationships? Well, he is, judging by some apparent texts his surfer ex-girlfriend Sarah Brady shared to Instagram over the weekend — despite the out-of-control media screeching to the contrary.

[…]According to Brady and the TikTokkers, self-proclaimed therapists, media, and fellow thirst-trappers who came to her defense, Hill is a controlling narcissist and misogynist — all for the crime of allegedly asking his then-girlfriend to please put on some clothes.

So, a man told a woman that he was interested in that he proposed certain rules in the relationship, rules that would allow him to get serious, and point the relationship towards commitment (as you’ll see). But the woman, and all of her supportive allies, from the secular left to the religious right, all agreed with her that a man setting boundaries on a woman to make her safe for a marriage commitment is “emotional abuse”.

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Specifically, Hill laid down some boundaries for his partner:

[…]Plain and simple: If you need: Surfing with men[,] Boundaryless inappropriate friendships with men[,] to model[,] to post pictures of yourself in a bathing suit[,] to post sexual pictures[,] friendships with women who are in unstable places and from your wild recent past beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful[,] I am not the right partner for you. If these things bring you to a place of happiness I support it and there will be no hard feelings. These are my boundaries for romantic partnership.

Hill’s detractors say this is “emotional abuse.” But can something really be described as “abuse” if the alleged perpetrator tells you “no hard feelings” if you’d rather walk away than agree to the terms?

Feminism has made it a lot harder for men to set boundaries that will orient women towards marriage. No matter how wise the man, and how good the advice, it must all be rejected. But the demands for men to get married to rebels remain. Especially when the feminists are hitting 35, and their friends are all getting married. They feel entitled to marriage, and how dare men tell them no? Many women today don’t want to hear a man talk about the Bible or hear a man talk about right and wrong, they just want weddings, wedding rings, vacations, and things to be fixed around the house. It would be better if men were just walking ATMs that didn’t talk at all.

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To protect the health and integrity of his relationship, Hill established reasonable and respectable parameters for how his girlfriend was to behave toward him through how she acted toward other men. Don’t sexualize yourself for other guys or engage in other relationship-compromising behaviors. And he made clear how he would respond if she didn’t respect those limits. I’m not the right man for you.

In my cases, my boundaries were always things that were clearly good for the women, and also good for commitment. For example, I might say “stop spending money on travel, get a private sector job in your field, and pay off your student loans”. But these conditions were rejected. Later on, when the woman reached her early 30s, I would get e-mails about wanting to get back together. But the student loans had only increased, and the resumes now had huge gaps. I can only assume that the body counts had also increased from all the “traveling”. No thanks, I said. No thank you. I can do something more productive than bail women out. I especially don’t want to bail women out who have no respect for men who know how to lead.

This behavior of calling moral and spiritual leadership “emotional abuse” and “controlling” is common – even in Christian circles – because of feminism. In general, the only acceptable male roles are “protect and provide”. Men are supposed to take on all the accountability, but with none of the authority to defend the truth, or to defend morality. On any topic. For example, if you try to tell a single woman in her late 20s about infertility, it’s “emotional abuse”. No amount of evidence can ever beat “follow your heart”. And she has legions of supporters who will shame you for trying to argue from scientific studies.

If you think I am mean, then read Kylee:

Enter feminism, which loves female autonomy and sold women lots of lies about it. Feminism said love yourself. If that means wreaking all kinds of havoc, your second “X” chromosome trumps the consequences. Unrestrained sex and unintended pregnancy? Abort the baby. Not happy in your marriage? Divorce him. Unfulfilled at home? Leave the kids with an underpaid immigrant and climb that corporate ladder. No boundaries. No bonds. No bras.

But news flash: Relationships take two. And sadly, thanks to that third-wave wrecking ball, some dating women need to be told some obvious things when it comes to romantic fidelity, even if those things have to come from their partners: Seeking the approval of other men for how you look is a bad idea. Worse, it communicates lots of bad things about your priorities and desires.

Frankly, a man who’s willing to say that tough thing is probably a man worth holding onto. Thanks in part to “toxic masculinity” messaging and the militant feminization of America, a man who shoots for commitment and faithfulness, and communicates those aims in a straightforward way while proposing an amicable split as the alternative, is a rarity.

Oh, how I love those words.

Sadly, Kylee’s view is in the minority today, thanks to feminism. And if men are not allowed to lead a relationship, then the marriage rate will continue to decline. Neither shaming of men nor blaming of men will cause men to accept marriage without leadership.

For more on this topic, I recommend this excellent article by Mark McDonald, M.D., entitled “Why American Women Are Undatable” The subtitle is “No One Wants to Play with a Porcupine”. Indeed not.

13 thoughts on “Should men marry women who think relationship boundaries are “emotional abuse”?”

  1. Man…that’s why I said in a recent blog, “Are you sure the women out there have rejected ME? Or is it that I rejected the women out there?”

    Because, just from online dating…even in my 30s, I see how so many ladies still haven’t grown up. Everyone just wants to have “Fun”. Not a lot of talk on their profiles about family or even stability and responsibility that would lead me to believe she’s family oriented. Pics of traveling, resorts, or Disney World tells me this woman probably spends a lot of money and cares a lot about self-pleasure, more so than saving or preparing for family.

    Even with the Christians i matched with. They were so corrupted by Feminism that they basically shamed me for having Biblical standards. I hope they continue on in their Christian journey, but they weren’t ready for marriage at the time.

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    1. I was told that marriage is “boring” and that good men are “boring and predictable”. I was referred to as “broccoli”. Broccoli is too healthy for right now, maybe better in her mid 30s. Right now (late 20s!) is for fun and thrills. This was a Christian woman and had the full support from her family and church to delay marriage for debt-fueled travel.

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    2. I wonder how much of their immaturity is due to being coddled? Other than being an empowered woman, or the best athlete possible, they generally don’t face the life long battles men do. They have a lot less opportunity to grow as a a LARPing man, compared with if they were home, submitting, and being saved by childbirth.

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  2. This is a really good analysis, thank you. I hope Kylee Griswold is happily married. As cute as she is, I betcha Vicky Spratt becomes a single old cat woman. Who knew that a Hollywood star, Johah Hill, is so sensible?

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    1. He maiden name is Kylee Zempel. I would thi k from that article that she had her pick of thousands of great men. Good men want a woman who backs men up like she did in that article.

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  3. Your reference below is a really good article.
    For more on this topic, I recommend this excellent article by Mark McDonald, M.D., entitled “Why American Women Are Undatable” The subtitle is “No One Wants to Play with a Porcupine”. Indeed not.

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  4. Slightly off topic. I wonder if women have a maternal instinct. It’s not explicitly said in the Bible, and so relies on what we see with some young kids and evolutionary psychology. I think since the Bible says they are saved by childbirth and because they have the body parts for it, there is some predisposition, but like gays say about gay ducks (they say it’s natural, because it is for ducks) I could say about Ostriches (or is it storks) and women. It’s definitely being trained out of them. They want a baby as a bucket list item, but are horrible mothers. Where is the instinct?

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    1. Yes it’s bring trained out of them.
      And even marriage is being trained to be seen as a bucket list item. The “why” of marriage children is very different today than if used to be.

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    2. Asking my podcast partner (Rose) about this, and she mentioned some women have the gift of singleness. But she agrees with you that women are actively being trained out of it. Look at the abortion approval rate among women, she says.

      She herself prefers teaching to motherhood, but she nurtures all the neighbor kids, has a dog, and two bird feeders (that I gave her) which she is fascinated by. She wouldn’t let the dog out on the deck for fear of disturbing the gold finches who were there.

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