Why does God let people suffer? Why is there so much evil in the world?

I have a key that will unlock a puzzling mystery
I have a key that will unlock a puzzling mystery

I just wanted to draw your attention to this 4 page essay by Joe Manzari, which is the best darn summary of the state of the art on the problems of evil and suffering I have seen. The problem of evil is an objection to the existence of God based on the presence of evil or suffering in the world. The arguments basically infer that if God is all-good and all-powerful, then there should not be any evil or suffering.

There are two kinds of problem of evil.

The Logical/Deductive Problem of Evil:

The first kind is called “the deductive problem of evil” or “the logical problem of evil”. An exampel of evil would be Saddam Hussein murdering some journalist who told the truth about him. This version of the problem of evil tries to introduce a logical contradiction between the attributes of God and the presence of evil, like this:

(1) God exists.
(2) God is omnipotent.
(3) God is omniscient.
(4) God is omni-benevolent.
(5) Evil exists.
(6) A good being always eliminates evil as far as it can.
(7) There are no limits to what an omnipotent being can do.

In order to avoid a contradiction, we need to explain how there could still be evil, since the conclusion of this argument is that there should not be any evil!So how are we going to get out of this mess? The solution is to attack premises 6 and 7.

Premise 6 is false because in order to eliminate human evil, you would have to eliminate free will. But eliminating free will is worse than allowing it, because good things like love are impossible without free will.

It is in response to this proposition that the Free Will Theodicy of G. W. Leibniz applies. God, valuing man’s freedom, decided to provide him with a will that was free to choose good over evil, rather than constraining his will, allowing him to choose only good.

Premise 7 is false because there are limits on what an omnipotent being can do. God cannot perform contradictory things, because contradictory things are impossible. God cannot make a married bachelor. Similarly, God cannot force free creatures to do his will.

In the same manner that God cannot create a square circle, he cannot make someone freely choose to do something. Thus, if God grants people genuine freedom, then it is impossible for him to determine what they will do. All that God can do is create the circumstances in which a person can make free choices and then stand back and let them make the choices.

One last point. In order to solve the problem of natural evil for this argument, you can point out that free will requires predictable and regular natural laws in order to make free will meaningful. Natural laws mean that individuals can predict what will happen when they act, allowing for moral responsibility. More on that next time.

Inductive/Probabilistic Problem of Evil

There is a second version of the problem of evil, though, which is more dangerous than the first. This is the one you see being argued in debates, whereas the first version is not used because it has been defused as seen above. Here is the second one:

(1) If God exists, gratuitous evil does not exist.
(2) Gratuitous evil exists.
(3) Therefore, God does not exist.

This argument tries to argue that while God may have some reason for allowing free will, there are other evils in the world that are not the result of human action that God has no reason for permitting. Theists usually like to argue that God has morally-sufficient reasons for allowing some evil in the world, in order for the character of humans to develop through suffering and endurance. But what about gratuitous evil, which doesn’t have any point?

Consider the case of a fawn running in the forest, who falls and breaks his leg. Ouch! Then a forest fire starts and the poor fawn suffocates to death in the smoke. Why would God allow this poor small animal suffer like that? And notice that there is no morally sufficient reason for allowing it, because no human knows about this and so no human’s character or relationship with God is impacted by it.

The solution to this problem is to deny premise 2. (You can also deny 1 if you want). The problem with premise 2 is that the atheist is claiming to know that some instance of evil really is gratuitous. But since they are making the claim to know, they have to be able to show that God’s permission of that evil achieves nothing. But how do they know 2 is true?

The problem with 2 is that the atheist is not in a position to know that the permission of some evil X really doesn’t achieve anything. This is because the atheist cannot look forward into the future, or see into other places, in order to know for certain that there is no morally sufficient reason for allowing God’s allowing evil X to occur. But since the atheist argues based on premise 2, he must be able to show that premise 2 is more probable than not.

Manzari’s article also argues why apparently gratuitous evil is less problematic for Christians in particular, because of certain Christian doctrines. He lists four doctrines that make the apparently gratuitous evil that we observe more compatible with an all-good, all-powerful God.

  1. The chief purpose of life is not happiness, but the knowledge of God.
    Some of the things that we experience may wreck our feelings of contentment, but we need to remember that God may be permitting those troubles in order to remind us not to get too comfortable with life on earth, and to think ahead to the after-life. And remember, even Jesus learned endurance through suffering. His suffering was not pointless and neither is ours.
  2. Mankind is in a state of rebellion against God and God’s purposes.
    We humans seem to be on a dead run away from God, trying to keep our autonomy by knowing as little about him as possible. Part of knowing God is knowing what he designed us to do – to love him and to love others. And so, the less we know about God, the more we stray from his design for our lives.
  3. God’s purpose is not restricted to this life but spills over beyond the grave into eternity.
    Sometimes it seems as if our sufferings really are catastrophic, but when you realize that you are offered eternal life without any suffering after you die, the sufferings of this life are a lot less upsetting than they would be if this life was all we had.
  4. The knowledge of God is an incommensurable good.
    This one is the biggest for me. Knowing God and knowing his actual character by studying the historical Jesus is a wonderful counterbalance for all the problems and sufferings of this life. A little bit of historical study reveals that Jesus was not spared the worst kind of suffering in his life, making it is a lot easier for us to bear with whatever God allows us to face.

In section 3, Manzari shows how you can also argue against this version of the problem by supplying evidence for God, such as from the big bang, the fine-tuning, the origin of life, the origin of free will, the origin of the first living organism, the origin of the mind, the sudden emergence of phyla in the fossil record, molecular machines, irreducible complexity, the resurrection miracle, and the objective morality argument.

The argument goes like this:

(1) If God exists, gratuitous evil does not exist.
(2) God exists.
(3) Therefore, gratuitous evil does not exist.

Just support 2 with some evidence, and you win, especially when they can’t support their claim to know that gratuitous evil exists.

The Argument for God from Evil

In the paper, Manzari actually makes an argument for God from evil. That’s right. Far from disproving God, the presence of evil (a departure from the way things out to be), actually affirms God’s existence. How?

(1) If God does not exist, then objective moral values do not exist.
(2) Evil exists.
(3) Therefore, objective moral values do exist.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

That’s right. If evil exists in any sense such that it is not a personal or cultural preference, then objective morality exists. If objective morality exists, then there is an objective moral lawgiver. Game over. If the atheist backtracks and says that the existence of evil is just his opinion or his cultural preference, then this standard does not apply to God, and you win again. Game over again.

So, although the problems of evil look pretty tough, they are actually easy. The toughest part of evil and suffering is the emotional problem. I could tell you stories about what I’ve been through… but then, that’s why the arguments matter. You can hold your position under tremendous fire when you have the arguments and evidence to ground you.

13 thoughts on “Why does God let people suffer? Why is there so much evil in the world?”

  1. I haven’t seen much research done on the problem of evil from the perspective of Satan’s Free Will, and how much his free will (or freedom) impacts not only Humanity & Nature, but also the spiritual world. Maybe there is info about this, and I haven’t found it? Or maybe its an undeveloped or underdeveloped area of study in Christian Theology?

    1. Try many of the good Systematic Theology books that are available such as Lectures in Systematic Theology – Clarence Thiessen, Systematic Theology – Louis Berkhof, Systematic Theology – Wayne Grudem, and Systematic Theology – Augustus Hopkins Strong, D.D. just to name a few. There is not necessarily a section like Satanology, but the Anthropology of man and the nature of sin cover, for example, cover this in great detail. Starting with the premise as Satan being the Father of lies (sin), it is easy to see how Satan deceived Adam and Eve and that through Adam, sin and death entered creation:

      Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
      Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

      1. Yes. I have a systematic theology text by Millard J. Erickson entitled ‘Christian Theology’ 3rd ed., but even he (along with the text that you mentioned) doesn’t address Satan’s free will, and how it (Satan’s free will) affects humanity, nature, and the spiritual world. I believe if one can understand Satan’s free will, and how his free will affects humanity, nature, and the spiritual world, then I believe that this will eventually resolve the many concerns with ‘the problem of evil theories/arguments.’

        As I stated before, this could be a new or undeveloped/underdeveloped field in theology?

          1. Lectures in Systematic Theology – Clarence Thiessen is the book that was the textbook for the theology class I took. It is a hard read and some students failed the class because of that fact. It is more of a thinking man’s book for theology. I still refer back to it often and find that I need to read it again. Was truly deep. Grudem and Burkhoff are the others I enjoyed. I used various quotes from their works in my class assignments. This one, Systematic Theology – Augustus Hopkins Strong, D.D. was written quite a few years ago and is quoted quite often in Thiessen’s work.

        1. Why is it important to understand Satan’s free will as opposed to understanding ours? The Bible is clear on Satan’s free will. See Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28.

          Also, the beginning of the Book of Job clearly states that Satan has limited freedom. A good study on the Anthropology of man gives us a clear understanding how Satan is free to a limit. Man is the handiwork of sin being tempted by Satan. I have not read where Satan has the freedom to impose evil on anyone, he only tempts. That is the freedom God has allowed him.

          So it is possible that the reason that this topic has not been addressed is because man is the tool of Satan after being tempted. If we understand man’s propensity to sin, we can understand the freedom Satan has only allowed by God.

          Question, the text I posted, is it the result of Satan’s free will or the result of man’s free will?

          The book of James is also clear as well;
          Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
          Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
          Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
          Jas 1:16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

          I also wonder, even if such a topic existed, would it actually answer the question of evil? We know Satan is evil in all that he is, HOWEVER, he is a limited creature, he can only tempt. It is man that must accept the responsibility of whether he falls for the lies or stands upon the Rock.(See Christ’s first and second temptations.)

          1. Isaiah 14 & Ezekiel 28 gives us a brief history of Satan’s life, before and after he rebelled. These chapters also reveal why Satan was cast out and his eventual demise. In other words, these chapters show what Satan did with his free will, before & during his rebellion. These chapters don’t reveal anything about what his current free will entails (or what he has now decided to do with his free will, once he has been cast out).

            However, the book of Job is an excellent start to uncovering what Satan’s free will entails. Satan doesn’t have to use man to carry out or portray his (Satan’s) free will. Remember, in Job 1:16 ‘While he (Job’s messenger) was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God (it was actually an act of Satan’s) fell from the sky and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” Hence, Satan used fire to destroy Job’s servants and sheep. Could this be the answer to WK’s fawn in the forest death as a response to the problem of evil? It clearly shows that Satan has the free will to harm animals and people without the help of man.

            Moreover, let’s continue in Job. Job 1:18-19, “While he (Job’s messenger) was speaking, yet another messenger came and said, ‘Your sons and daughters were feasting and drinking wine at the oldest brother’s house, when suddenly a mighty wind swept in from the desert and struck the four corners of the house. It collapsed on them and they are dead, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!’ ” Here, Satan has the free will to use the wind to inflict evil (or to portray his free will) upon man without the assistance of man to carry out his freedom.

            Finally, Let’s look at Job 2:7, ‘Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head.’ Here, Satan has the free will to inflict diseases and pain upon man without the assistance of another man to carry out or portray his free will.

            So, although Satan is a limited creature (just like us), he has the power to do more than ‘just tempt us.’ As I have shown, Satan doesn’t need man’s sinful nature, physical body, and/or spiritual being to carry out his free will, but, at times, he does use man to portray his free will (or what he has decided to do with his free will after he was cast out from God’s presence).

  2. I forgot to add something to my first paragraph: ‘These chapters don’t reveal anything about what his current free will entails (or what he has now decided to do with his free will, once he has been cast out).’

    I should’ve added ‘ how Satan’s free will affects humanity, nature, and the spiritual world in addressing the problem of evil theories/concerns.’

    1. I could not add a reply to your other reply, so I will add it here.

      You are right about Satan having power, but he is still limited. In all you posted about Satan from Job, you missed two very important verses:

      Job 1:11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
      Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

      Paul also wrote some interesting words as well:
      Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
      Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

      So I am not accused of adding my own theology to the Word of God, I like to use Greek Scholars to explain words that give a better explanation than I could. I always use A.T. Robertson and Marvin Vincent. This is from Marvin Vincent’s word studies. One book all Christians should have in their library.

      According to the course of this world (kata ton aiōna tou kosmou toutou). Curious combinations of aiōn (a period of time), kosmos (the world in that period).

      The prince of the power of the air (ton archonta tēs exousias tou aeros). Aēr was used by the ancients for the lower and denser atmosphere and aithēr for the higher and rarer. Satan is here pictured as ruler of the demons and other agencies of evil. Jesus called him “the prince of this world” (ho archōn tou kosmou toutou, John 16:11).

      That now worketh (tou nun energountos). Those who deny the existence of a personal devil cannot successfully deny the vicious tendencies, the crime waves, in modern men. The power of the devil in the lives of men does explain the evil at work “in the sons of disobedience” (en tois huiois tēs apethias). In Eph 5:6 also. A Hebrew idiom found in the papyri like “sons of light” (1Th 5:5).

      Note that no where in these words does it say anything about Satan freely working without a vessel. He needs man to carry out his purpose, that being the destruction if mankind through sin.

      Back to Job.
      God’s sovereignty still ruled over Stan’s free will. So it is not as you put it; “Satan has the free will to…” No, he was given permission to use whatever means he desired to inflict suffering upon Job. Even the use of his power is limited, Remember, he is spirit but he also created under the authority of God.

      You’re looking for something about Satan that is already in the Bible. It doesn’t take much to figure it out. So ended your post with this; (or what he has decided to do with his free will after he was cast out from God’s presence.)

      So what has Satan decided to do with the limited freedom he has? The answer is simple, to destroy God’s crowning creation…US. Nothing more nothing less. Trying to find something that is different from this is futile since Satan has this one desire. Scripture and history prove this.

      So how does he destroy mankind? TEMPTATION to sin. If he, as you said, has the power to do more than ‘just tempt us.’ then why hasn’t he destroyed mankind in constant fire from heaven or some other means? If he has the “free will” to destroy freely, then we would not be here. Do not think that his temptations are not as devastating as his power. That statement undermines the real power of Satan and that which has been destroying mankind since the fall.

      The Book of Revelation brings it all to a head. Now note, though, after chapter 3, the church is gone, but the word bride comes into play at chapter 18. This is important because during the tribulation period, God lets Satan loose upon the earth to now freely get what he always wanted. You asked what does he want through his free will, Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
      He wants worship and he will be worshiped as God and demand it during the tribulation period, hence why the church is gone. To be :out of the way.” We know this because the Holy Spirit works through the church, the body of believers.

      In my opinion, your looking for something about Satan and his free will that is already in Scripture and he is destroying mankind with it. Why would Satan have to use his power when his temptations are doing a fine job anyway? Besides, he still has to have God’s permission to tempt us and to exercise his power. He cannot do anything outside of God’s sovereignty.

      The Bible does not tell us how to avoid Satan’s power, but does tell us multiple times how to not to fall for his temptations. Here is one of my favorite verses on this;
      1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

      Note how God’s sovereignty still has a part on the level of temptation we will experience, NOT the level of Satan’s power upon us.

      1. I will try one more time. Maybe I am not being clear…………………

        ‘Note that no where in these words does it say anything about Satan freely working without a vessel. He needs man to carry out his purpose, that being the destruction if mankind through sin.’

        I just gave you several examples of Satan working without a vessel from the book of Job. I have shown you that He has done it before, and he will do it again during the 7-year tribulation. For more on the 7-year tribulation see:


        ‘Back to Job.
        God’s sovereignty still ruled over Stan’s free will. So it is not as you put it; “Satan has the free will to…” No, he was given permission to use whatever means he desired to inflict suffering upon Job. Even the use of his power is limited, Remember, he is spirit but he also created under the authority of God. ‘

        Of course, God’s sovereignty still rules over even our (man’s) free will. We, just like Satan, are still bound by God’s sovereignty. We, just like Satan, can only do what God allows us to do. Satan has free will just like we do. Satan has decided, as you put it, to go against anything God has done.

        ‘In my opinion, your looking for something about Satan and his free will that is already in Scripture and he is destroying mankind with it.’

        You completely missed my point.

        I stated: ‘I haven’t seen much research done on the problem of evil from the perspective of Satan’s Free Will, and how much his free will (or freedom) impacts not only Humanity & Nature, but also the spiritual world.’

        Remember this discussion is about the problem of evil, and how Christians and Atheists use this problem/theory to advocate for or against God’s Existence. My hypothesis is that we need to look at Satan’s Free Will and how he chooses to exercise it (Atheists refuse to go this route, because they don’t believe Satan exist. Hence, most Christians won’t use this argument against Atheists for this reason. I believe that we need to start using Satan’s Free Will to address the problem of evil discussion). This will give us a new perspective on the problem of evil, since most Christians and Atheists do not look at the problem of evil (to prove or disprove of God’s Existence) from Satan’s Free Will. He has free will just like we do. Moreover, just like ours’ (man’s free will), Satan’s free will has limits.

        1. Nah, I didn’t miss your point. You’re looking for something that is right in front of you.

          I did not disagree with you about Satan’s power. But, using his power as he did in Job is not his greatest weapon. His deception leading mankind from the knowledge of God is. Paul put it this way in Romans;

          Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
          The proper Greek usage here is “the lie.” What lie? Gen 3:1; Hath God said.

          You said; ‘I haven’t seen much research done on the problem of evil from the perspective of Satan’s Free Will, and how much his free will (or freedom) impacts not only Humanity & Nature, but also the spiritual world.’

          Yes, there has been “research”, it is called Systematic Theology usually under the topic of Angelology but in some cases, as I pointed you to some other works, it may be specific to Satan. Reading only one theology book limits one knowledge. Even Tozer said, A Christin leader must be well read. Are you well read?

          All Apologists I have followed; Turek, Craig, Zacharias, Geisler, etc. all say the same thing, every Apologetic argument starts with an understanding of the Bible. If you first appeal to their work before the Bible, I would doubt your argument and any attempt you make for your argument. This would tell me that you go to man’s work before the Word of God and the Word is very clear on what your hypothesis is trying to answer.

          We do not need a “new perspective” since Satan and his devices are clear in the Word of God and have been around for centuries.
          2Co 2:11b for we are not ignorant of his devices. (What are Satan’s devices?)
          Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. (What are Satan’s wiles?)
          Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

          That pretty much sums up your argument. How can mankind even think to stand against Satan if we have to grapple with a “new perspective?” NOPE. The Bible gives us all we need to know and the Apologetic argument is right there. Really, a “new perspective?”

          So what is the problem of evil? EASY. The root of all evil is found in Genesis 3:1, “Hath God said.” This is the lie of all lies. Satan planted doubt in the mind of Eve which in turn caused Adam to sin as well.

          Trying add more to that is walking on dangerous ground.

          From the moment of the fall, sin and death entered the world. No one doubts this and is a fact. (Atheists doubt this I know, but I am referring to believers in Christ.) Satan IS the root of all evil, man is the vessel that carries out his devices. If not, then why did Paul use words such as devices and wiles? Why didn’t Paul talk about his destructive power revealed in Job? Easy, because his revealed power like that of Job IS NOT the real problem.

          That is the foundation of the argument from evil. Why? Because of that one act, all of Adam’s posterity are sinners. This again is basic theology and is found in Romans 3:23 and of course Rom 6:23. Ez 18:20 begins, The soul that sins will surely die.

          So the question is, to begin any discussion on evil, what is defined as evil and who is the one to carry out this evil in the world?

          Are these not acts that oppose God? What are acts that oppose God? Galatians 5:16-18 give us a brief description. There are other places such as 2 Tim 3. So, who carries out these acts of evil? Satan? NOPE. Man is the culprit and as long as man denies Christ, evil will continue to flourish.

          Note that I am appealing to the Word of God and dealing with the problem of evil. A careful reading of what I have posted gives one two premises to work with.

          Now, you keep talking about some free will and power that Satan has. Any discussion on free will, man or Satan, starts and ends with the sovereignty of God. Satan CANNOT exercise anything without the permission of God. So why does God allow Satan to have free will upon mankind? The answer again is right in front of you.

          So how does Satan’s free will impact not only Humanity & Nature, but also the spiritual world. No offense but do you not study the Bible? The answer is Christ. Follow me carefully here.

          Why did Christ have to die? What was the purpose of the death burial, and resurrection of Christ? That is the real question all of us must answer. Why? Because within its answer lies how Satan impacted humanity and that is all we need to deal with when we come to the table of the problem of evil. Again, what is the ultimate purpose of Satan and how does he fulfill his purpose? To this, then refer back to my two questions at the beginning of my paragraph.

          Besides. another way is to adhere to the correspondence theory of truth. That of course is what matches reality. So, take what the Bible teaches about Satan and apply it to reality and you have the problem of evil. Without the use of men and women believing the lies of Satan, he, Satan, is powerless. Even our temptations are governed by God as I pointed to in another post. Again, Satan is only free to do what he desires according to God’s purpose and plans for our life and revealing to a sinful world His goodness.

          So why is it so hard for you to grasp this simple theology? Why cannot an Apologetic argument include the reality of Satan? Did not Christ use Satan and hell in His arguments?

          Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

          You said, “Remember this discussion is about the problem of evil, and how Christians and Atheists use this problem/theory to advocate for or against God’s Existence.” I say, what does the Bible say? If you’re trying to create an argument that is outside the Word of God, YOU WILL FAIL.

          Think of it this way, and is the illustration I use when I talk about my arguments. If you ever watched Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard fight, you will get this. Both were outstanding boxer’s not necessarily fighters. They jabbed and jabbed setting up their opponent for the knockout blow. True, many boxer’s have this same strategy, but none quite like the two I mentioned. They duped their opponents well. When the time for the knockout blow came, BAM! In some cases, they just won by points, taking their opponent the distance. This depends on the audience.

          I use man’s arguments first. Using arguments from science, but mainly from reality. Then after that foundation, the knockout blow is the Word of God. Paul uses the same tactic in Acts 17. Read that carefully, it is the model of an Apologetic argument. Note also, he did not preach the Gospel but used what the Greeks knew and revealed what they did not. That is the most effective way to present an Apologetic argument and is undeniable. He knew his audience and built an argument from that knowledge.

          Want a good grasp on hell? Read Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.

          Again, If your trying to find an argument for the problem of evil outside the Word of God, relying on your own philosophy, YOU WILL FAIL.

          1. Once again, you completely missed not only the main themes of WK’s article, but also my hypothesis and points, and how they are connected. I am finished. Maybe WK can reveal to you his main points of his article, and how my hypothesis and points could address them.

  3. Nah, I didn’t miss your point. Your hypothesis is found in Scripture and in our everyday lives. Do you sin daily? If you say yes…BINGO. The hypothesis answered. If you say no, the Bible calls you a liar. BINGO, your hypothesis is answered. Seems you’re missing the point of how Satan has worked in humanity since the Garden of Eden. It is so basic to Christianity I am amazed you consider your hypothesis a valid.

    I wasn’t commenting on his article, I was dealing with your hypothesis. His post os just fine. However, there is no new perspective that we need about Satan and his free will. The Bible shows us what we need to know about Satan, how he works in humanity, and what we see every day reveals this.

    But here’s another question. In my opinion, you haven’t established a premise from your hypothesis nor a conclusion or a solution. Your responses to me indicate your inability to make your hypothesis an actual argument. But you just respond as the atheist do and claim I miss the point? What point? That we need a new perspective? I say, hogwash, READ the Bible, study Theology, and apply the correspondence theory of truth upon the world we live based upon Scripture if you want to see how Satan impacts humanity. That’s my point.

    Seems to me that if you cannot convince a Christian your hypothesis, how then are you going to make an argument about the problem of evil to an atheist? I know Satan exists, just read the news. But the atheist does not.

    There is an easy way to deal with an argument before it takes off. This is the method Paul used and is an old lawyer tactic to anticipate opposing arguments. It is a method called diatribe. The word is defined much differently today than what it meant in the past. Paul uses this tactic in Romans. He asks the question and follows with the objection then follows with another answer.

    If you’re going to try and create an argument from that hypothesis, try the diatribe method. Otherwise, it seems you get too frustrated because you cannot deal with someone who disagrees with you. And yes, I know your hypothesis is plainly revealed in Scripture and everyday life, but you disagree from frustration because I do not agree with you.

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