Is belief in the Jesus of the Bible needed in order to be rightly related to God?

Here’s a good introductory lecture on the topic by Chad Gross, who blogs at Truthbomb Apologetics.

You can see the footnotes for his article on his blog.

The one criticism I have is that he seems to be quoting from John a lot, and he should have some sort of case for John being reliable. I would maybe cite the scholarly work of someone like Richard Bauckham, who thinks that John is not only based on eyewitness testimony, but was actually written by a disciple of Jesus named John. John is my favorite gospel, but skeptical NT critics critics are pretty hard on it. Of course, Chad was speaking in a church, so it’s understandable why he might not take the time to do that.

For those who don’t want to watch the video, here’s a good thought from J. Warner Wallace at Please Convince Me.

Excerpt:

A “just” God does justice, which means to punish or reward appropriately. In the Western tradition, we punish people for the actions they commit, but the extent of punishment is dependent also on the person’s mental state, and a person’s mental state is reflective of his or her beliefs. Premeditated murder is worse than manslaughter, and is punished more severely, and a hate crime is a sentencing enhancement that adds more punishment to the underlying crime. In both examples, a person’s beliefs are at play: the premeditated murderer has reflected on his choices and wants the victim dead; a hate crime reflects a belief that the rights of a member of the protected group are especially unworthy of respect. So, considering a person’s beliefs may well be relevant, especially if those beliefs have motivated the criminal behavior.

But the challenger’s mistake is even more fundamental. He is wrong to assert that people are condemned for not accepting the gospel. Christians believe that people are condemned for their sinful behavior – the “wages of sin is death” – not for what they fail to do. The quoted challenge is like saying that the sick man died of “not going to the doctor.” No, the person died of a specific condition – perhaps cancer or a heart attack – which a doctor might have been able to cure. So too with eternal punishment. No one is condemned for refusing to believe in Jesus. While Jesus can – and does – provide salvation for those who seek it, there is nothing unjust about not providing salvation to those who refuse to seek it. After all, we don’t normally feel obliged to help someone who has not asked for, and does not want, our assistance. So too the Creator has the right to withhold a gift – i.e. eternity spent in His presence – from those who would trample on the gift, and on the gift-giver.

The quoted assertion also demonstrates an unspoken belief that we can impress God with our “kind” or “generous” behavior. This fails to grasp what God is – a perfect being. We cannot impress Him. What we do right we should do. We don’t drag people into court and reward them for not committing crimes. This is expected of them. They can’t commit a murder and then claim that punishment is unfair, because they had been kind and generous in the past. When a person gets his mind around the idea of what perfection entails, trying to impress a perfect Creator with our “basic goodness” no longer seems like such a good option.

If you want to hear a debate featuring exclusivists versus pluralists, I’ve got a podcast and a summary of a good debate on this issue between Chris Sinkinson and John Hick. You can’t find a more prominent pluralist than John Hick, except for maybe Paul Knitter, who is featured in a debate with Harold Netland in the new “Debating Christian Theism” book that is just out with Oxford University Press.

4 thoughts on “Is belief in the Jesus of the Bible needed in order to be rightly related to God?”

  1. Skeptics like to pick on John because of the differences between John’s Gospel and the Synoptics. Many of the skeptic’s arguments against the reliability of John’s Gospel crumble when you observe that the most basic difference between John’s Gospel and the Synoptics is that the latter generally stick to the more public aspects of Jesus’ teachings and ministry. They record the sermons and parables He gave to the large crowds and the miracles that took place on public occassions. John, on the other hand, presents private encounters, such as that of Nicodemus, lengthy discources given to Jesus’ most intitmate circle, such as that at the Last Supper, and miracles in more intimate settings, like that at the wedding in Cana. These are exactly the differences one would expect to find between Gospels that had been written to record the basic facts of Jesus’ ministry and teachings, and a more intimate portrait written later by one who had been part of the inner circle.

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  2. Wintery, you mention Bauckham as holding that the gospel of John was written by the Apostle John, but I’ve read the book and that is not quite right. He actually holds that the gospel of John was written by a disciple named John who was not one of the inner circle of the twelve. This point is confirmed in the link you give to Hurtado’s blog where he quotes Bauckham as saying: ” I think that the ‘Beloved Disciple’ himself wrote the Gospel of John as we have it, and that he was a disciple of Jesus and thus an eyewitness himself, as he claims, though not John the son of Zebedee.” He bases this partly on the writings of Papias who refers to two individuals named Aristeon and “John the Elder” who Bauckham holds is the author of the gospel and that he is NOT the apostle John. Check it out for yourself.

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