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Jennifer Roback Morse and Hannah Spier discuss the pitfalls of feminism

So, I am still on Cloud 9 from the amazing essay and lecture by Helen Andrews that I posted on the weekend. My female friends were unanimous in their praise for the article. My male friend Blake and I talked about it for 2 hours on the phone. My other male friends have not had the chance to read it. But on the heels of that, here’s another fantastic podcast about feminism. Terrell found it for me.

I don’t need to introduce economist Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse (of the Ruth Institute) to regular readers of the blog, as she is well known for her opposition to feminism, and her policy-oriented approach to solving the problems of the Sexual Revolution. Whereas many social conservatives just moan and complain about the Sexual Revolution, and then expect men to “fix it” so that women are happy, Dr. Morse has all sorts of interesting ideas about what laws and policies to change to bring us back to normal.

Her guest Dr. Hannah Spier is someone I had never head of before. She’s a former psychiatrist who is married and lives in Switzerland with her husband and children. She’s a stay-at-home mother now. And you might not believe this but she describes herself as very supportive of “men’s rights”. Now, don’t get me wrong, she’s not a basher of women. What I heard in the podcast was a lot of discussion about what feminism is, and how women who believe in it order their lives. Does it work out for them?

Anyway, I have the video version and the audio version. So here’s the uncensored video from Rumble:

And the audio-only version: (opens in new tab)

https://sites.libsyn.com/20124/psychiatrist-proves-feminism-is-even-worse-than-we-thought-hannah-spier-dr-j-show

Don’t forget that our Knight and Rose Show is also posted on Rumble, if you don’t like YouTube. I certainly don’t.

I was supposed to be working on work-work (work related to my job) on Sunday, and doing the laundry. But I could not escape from this podcast. I kept re-winding it to play parts over.

Anyway, I was going to write a summary of this, but I fed Grok the transcript, and told it the parts that impressed me, and asked for a summary. I got this:

Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse and Dr. Hannah Spier explore how feminist ideology influences women’s choices, often leading to mental health challenges and unfulfilled desires. Dr. Spier, a psychiatrist, shares insights from her practice, highlighting how societal pressures and personal decisions rooted in feminism can create resentment and emotional distress across different life stages.

For women in their 20s, Dr. Spier observes a pattern of pursuing demanding degrees while grappling with unmet emotional needs. Many focus on dating or social status, influenced by feminist ideals of career-driven success, only to face anxiety and panic attacks when academic and romantic goals clash. This mismatch stems from chasing a glamorous career image that doesn’t satisfy deeper attachment needs.

In their 30s, women often experience burnout from unfulfilling jobs, compounded by the pressure of declining fertility. Dr. Spier notes that some women invest years in relationships with partners hesitant to commit, partly because career-focused women initially seem less likely to prioritize marriage or children. When these women later seek commitment, the delay can lead to conflict.

By their 40s, married women with children may face depression and marital strain, often feeling guilt over their children’s struggles, like ADHD, which Dr. Spier links to attachment issues from balancing work and family. Resentment toward husbands for perceived unequal responsibilities can push some toward divorce, seeking relief but facing new challenges.

Both critique feminism’s narrative that pits men and women against each other, arguing it undervalues motherhood and fuels bitterness. They encourage women to make choices aligned with their biological and relational needs, fostering healthier emotional lives and stronger families, rather than adhering to societal pressures that may lead to regret.

What was most interesting to me about all this was how even though women were making these decisions all along, it was pretty clear that they had been sold a bill of goods by powerful people who wanted them to go in this direction for whatever reason.

In particular, I was pleased to hear Dr. Spier mention how women who are committed to full-time careers deliberately choose men who support that. I.e. – men who don’t want to be burdened by commitment and children. So, to the woman who has her eventual demands for commitment and children rejected, it looks like “all men are bad” because the man she chose was bad. I know that many modern women, for example, consider support for abortion rights to be a non-negotiable when dating a man. If a feminist woman chooses a pro-abortion man, it gives her maximum autonomy for her career during her 20s. But how likely do you think it is that a pro-abortion man is going to suddenly sign up for marriage and children when she hits 32? It seems unlikely. After all, abortion is nothing but seeking reckless sexual pleasure, and then resorting to deadly violence to avoid the consequences of your actions. A man who believes in that is not going to sign up for marriage and kids. Marriage and kids are responsibilities, and pro-abortion men don’t want that.

What we need to do is to tell women that good men are men who want to commit early, and raise kids early. And so, they need to choose those good men early. Men marry for a specific plan. Good men want a helper who can help them with their plans. It’s wrong to pass up good men in the woman’s 20s, and then hope that they will be there in the woman’s 30s. That’s not a good deal for the good men. They will not take that deal. The right solution is for older women to teach younger women to reject feminism when they are still young. So, please share the podcast with young women.

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